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From: mikey coons on 14 Aug 2007 22:11
Well, I did some experimenting with Vector Linux, and no joy. This was
"supposed" to be the easy way out.......a nice clean distro with all the
vital stuff included.
I've since discovered it's not really ready for prime time and very hard to
configure on my hardware.

So.....I've taken some good advice here and started to download the install
disks. It appears this is the best way to get a minimal system with the
stuff I really use.
I'm printing the Book2, and hope it gives me what I need to install,
configure, and then later compile a new kernel and whatever with the apps I
use.

I'll be using a spare box sitting next to my Win machine, so that I can
search for stuff as I work. Once I get what I want, I hope to port it to
other computers (freinds and family) which is my original intention in the
first dang place:)

So, not to bore your further, I have 2 simple questions about,
well......questions:

Knowing I'm just starting, I've already gotten flamed here twice.

Is this the right place to ask questions? (your answer can be qualified
i.e., 'as long as you've done your 30 mile run, read for 3 years, and
studied Slack at the forum:)

In other words, which type questions are acceptable and what info is require
to post so's not to get hammered too badly?

And secondly, even though I've used a bit of Slack in the past, about how
long to get to where I'm up and running with 5 boxes, wifi enabled, and can
maybe answer some questions here on my own?

(caveat: CLI don't scare me, I've used DOS since day one. Had a Commodore 64
when they first came out, even. Build my own boxes, and play with the Win
registry.)

Eventually, I'd even like a go at doing my own Slack based distro:)

slackman "at" aaahawk.com (for you lurkers out there:)

Got the addy a long time ago!


From: D Herring on 14 Aug 2007 22:39
mikey coons wrote:
> I'll be using a spare box sitting next to my Win machine, so that I can
> search for stuff as I work. Once I get what I want, I hope to port it to
> other computers (freinds and family) which is my original intention in the
> first dang place:)

Having a second box for backup? good idea.
Making friends and relatives use linux? not gonna fly. (unless you
can reverse the Jobs Reality Distortion Field and the MS United all at
once)

> Knowing I'm just starting, I've already gotten flamed here twice.

That happens here. In fact, it happens on a lot of lists.

> Is this the right place to ask questions? (your answer can be qualified
> i.e., 'as long as you've done your 30 mile run, read for 3 years, and
> studied Slack at the forum:)
>
> In other words, which type questions are acceptable and what info is require
> to post so's not to get hammered too badly?

Ask away. Bring a fireproof suit.
The standard guidelines may help:
http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Here's a useful list of goodies:
http://slackworld.berlios.de/links.html

And if you happen to speak italian (other than pasta), here's an
active community:
http://www.slacky.eu/

> And secondly, even though I've used a bit of Slack in the past, about how
> long to get to where I'm up and running with 5 boxes, wifi enabled, and can
> maybe answer some questions here on my own?

A month or two? Depends on how intensely you pursue this.

- Daniel
From: Keith Keller on 14 Aug 2007 22:30
On 2007-08-15, mikey coons <rukidding(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
> Knowing I'm just starting, I've already gotten flamed here twice.

Keep in mind that some of the people who have flamed you are trolls.

> Is this the right place to ask questions? (your answer can be qualified
> i.e., 'as long as you've done your 30 mile run, read for 3 years, and
> studied Slack at the forum:)

As long as your question is well-phrased and reasonably well-researched,
and you tell us the main places that you've looked for help.

> And secondly, even though I've used a bit of Slack in the past, about how
> long to get to where I'm up and running with 5 boxes, wifi enabled, and can
> maybe answer some questions here on my own?

Up and running, if you're persistent, maybe a few days. To the point
where you can answer others' questions correctly, your guess is as good
as mine. :) If you give a bad answer, you will be flamed. (Bad does
not necessarily mean wrong, per se, though there's large overlap.)

> Eventually, I'd even like a go at doing my own Slack based distro:)

I'm not sure there's much point to doing so, but it's certainly an
interesting challenge. If you have the inclination, I'd suggest
starting with building and sharing the packages that you build for a
stock Slackware install; this way you can tell people "Install
Slackware, then grab my packages" instead of having to support a whole
distro.

--keith

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From: ~kurt on 15 Aug 2007 01:01
Keith Keller <kkeller-usenet(a)wombat.san-francisco.ca.us> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure there's much point to doing so, but it's certainly an
> interesting challenge. If you have the inclination, I'd suggest
> starting with building and sharing the packages that you build for a
> stock Slackware install; this way you can tell people "Install
> Slackware, then grab my packages" instead of having to support a whole
> distro.

For fun, I did the Linux From Scratch project (remember Allen Wong posting
about this almost a decade ago when LFS was just a gs or maybe pdf document?)
using just code from the slack disks and a few KB of other files I downloaded
from (what is now) the LFS project. I'm going to have to do that again - I
imagine it is one of those things where you will get more out of it each time
you do it.

- Kurt
From: loki harfagr on 15 Aug 2007 06:04
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 19:11:12 -0700, mikey coons wrote:

> Knowing I'm just starting, I've already gotten flamed here twice.

You've not been flamed at all, you just received two
usual welcome greetings from DanC and RM, remember
you used to see them on TV, sitting giggling on a balcony in
the Muppets Show.

If you're ever flamed be sure that by then you'll know it ;D)
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