Slave IDE and which option in FDISK to use?
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From: DJW on 26 Jun 2010 10:47 I am putting a slave IDE hard drive in my computer running Windows 98SE. Do I have to use Create Extended DOS Partition and not use primary DOS partition with Fdisk? Later I may want to install an OS on it and switch the jumpers to master and remove the old hard drive now set as master with the OS on it. Or at that time I will need to wipe it clean and select create primary DOS partition?
From: TVeblen on 26 Jun 2010 11:11 On 6/26/2010 10:47 AM, DJW wrote: > I am putting a slave IDE hard drive in my computer running Windows > 98SE. Do I have to use Create Extended DOS Partition and not use > primary DOS partition with Fdisk? Later I may want to install an OS on > it and switch the jumpers to master and remove the old hard drive now > set as master with the OS on it. Or at that time I will need to wipe > it clean and select create primary DOS partition? Create the primary partition. It will, have no affect on your other primary partition. And you can only create an extended partition after creating a primary anyway.
From: Don Phillipson on 26 Jun 2010 11:31 "DJW" <ddwr(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:87e7b71f-b79e-4122-823b-28d9d60bc68a(a)w31g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... > I am putting a slave IDE hard drive in my computer running Windows > 98SE. Do I have to use Create Extended DOS Partition and not use > primary DOS partition with Fdisk? Later I may want to install an OS on > it and switch the jumpers to master and remove the old hard drive now > set as master with the OS on it. Or at that time I will need to wipe > it clean and select create primary DOS partition? In FDISK terminology "Primary DOS" = bootable, so if you make the new HDD Primary DOS (in whole or part) Windows will recognize it as Drive D: and you can later instal an OS and boot from that drive (without swapping jumpers, probably, depending on your grub or bootstrap configuration.) FDISK "extended DOS" means non-booting. If you FDISK the new HDD Ext DOS (in whole or part) Windows will assign drive letters in sequence following all drives on your master HDD. (If the master HDD is all drive C: the first logical drive on the slave will be D: If you have three logical drives on the master HDD the first drive on the slave HDD will be F:.) -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada)
From: DJW on 27 Jun 2010 10:55 On Jun 26, 10:31 am, "Don Phillipson" <e...(a)SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote: > "DJW" <d...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:87e7b71f-b79e-4122-823b-28d9d60bc68a(a)w31g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... > > > I am putting a slave IDE hard drive in my computer running Windows > > 98SE. Do I have to use Create Extended DOS Partition and not use > > primary DOS partition with Fdisk? Later I may want to install an OS on > > it and switch the jumpers to master and remove the old hard drive now > > set as master with the OS on it. Or at that time I will need to wipe > > it clean and select create primary DOS partition? > > In FDISK terminology "Primary DOS" = bootable, so if you make > the new HDD Primary DOS (in whole or part) Windows will recognize > it as Drive D: and you can later instal an OS and boot from that > drive (without swapping jumpers, probably, depending on your > grub or bootstrap configuration.) > > FDISK "extended DOS" means non-booting. If you FDISK the new > HDD Ext DOS (in whole or part) Windows will assign drive letters > in sequence following all drives on your master HDD. (If the master > HDD is all drive C: the first logical drive on the slave will be D: > If you have three logical drives on the master HDD the first drive > on the slave HDD will be F:.) > > -- > Don Phillipson > Carlsbad Springs > (Ottawa, Canada) OK since I posted the first question I went back and partitioned as Primary Dos but I already had a hard drive in it as master with one other partition so C and D were taken. During reboot after I ran Fdisk I saw the make drive but it referred to it as D in all that text you get in Windows 98SE at boot up. It did not appear in My Computer. I thought if I went and tried to force its drive letter in the control panel I could. But only the two CD drives seem to let me change that. The place to change the letter was there but would not let me enter any letter. The two CD drives on the other ID buse were already G and H. So I then re-partitioned the drive as extended DOS partition. This time after reboot it was there in my computer as E then I right clicked on it and chose format and now I can use it. I need to go back and see how the other drive was jumped pretty sure it was not cable select but what is the option single drive master or something like that it might have as a configuration if the jumpers are set that way. I already once got a system hang up where it sounded and the access drive lamp just flashed like the hard drive actuator was caught in a loop of movement back and forth. Not sure which if not both hard drives it was happening too. Also my plan in the future was to unplug the master and re-jump the slave in question and re-plug in as master and install an OS. So now will that also mean to reformat as a Primary DOS partition before or right after I change things internally. Ih and can I reverse the drives and have that master as the slave or because it has been partitioned most likely as the primary a long time ago I would have to repartition and lose all the data on it.
From: TVeblen on 27 Jun 2010 12:18
On 6/27/2010 10:55 AM, DJW wrote: > On Jun 26, 10:31 am, "Don Phillipson"<e...(a)SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca> wrote: >> "DJW"<d...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:87e7b71f-b79e-4122-823b-28d9d60bc68a(a)w31g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... >> >>> I am putting a slave IDE hard drive in my computer running Windows >>> 98SE. Do I have to use Create Extended DOS Partition and not use >>> primary DOS partition with Fdisk? Later I may want to install an OS on >>> it and switch the jumpers to master and remove the old hard drive now >>> set as master with the OS on it. Or at that time I will need to wipe >>> it clean and select create primary DOS partition? >> >> In FDISK terminology "Primary DOS" = bootable, so if you make >> the new HDD Primary DOS (in whole or part) Windows will recognize >> it as Drive D: and you can later instal an OS and boot from that >> drive (without swapping jumpers, probably, depending on your >> grub or bootstrap configuration.) >> >> FDISK "extended DOS" means non-booting. If you FDISK the new >> HDD Ext DOS (in whole or part) Windows will assign drive letters >> in sequence following all drives on your master HDD. (If the master >> HDD is all drive C: the first logical drive on the slave will be D: >> If you have three logical drives on the master HDD the first drive >> on the slave HDD will be F:.) >> >> -- >> Don Phillipson >> Carlsbad Springs >> (Ottawa, Canada) > > OK since I posted the first question I went back and partitioned as > Primary Dos but I already had a hard drive in it as master with one > other partition so C and D were taken. During reboot after I ran Fdisk > I saw the make drive but it referred to it as D in all that text you > get in Windows 98SE at boot up. It did not appear in My Computer. I > thought if I went and tried to force its drive letter in the control > panel I could. But only the two CD drives seem to let me change that. > The place to change the letter was there but would not let me enter > any letter. The two CD drives on the other ID buse were already G and > H. > So I then re-partitioned the drive as extended DOS partition. This > time after reboot it was there in my computer as E then I right > clicked on it and chose format and now I can use it. I need to go back > and see how the other drive was jumped pretty sure it was not cable > select but what is the option �single� drive master or something like > that it might have as a configuration if the jumpers are set that way. > I already once got a system hang up where it sounded and the access > drive lamp just flashed like the hard drive actuator was caught in a > loop of movement back and forth. Not sure which if not both hard > drives it was happening too. > Also my plan in the future was to unplug the master and re-jump the > slave in question and re-plug in as master and install an OS. So now > will that also mean to reformat as a Primary DOS partition before or > right after I change things internally. Ih and can I reverse the > drives and have that master as the slave or because it has been > partitioned most likely as the primary a long time ago I would have to > repartition and lose all the data on it. If you are using a modern ATA 80 wire ribbon cable you can use Cable Select on *both* devices, making sure to put the Main system Drive-0(C: Drive) on the end (Black/Master) connector and the Auxiliary Drive-1(D: Drive) on the middle (Gray/Slave) connector. Or, regardless of cable type, set the MASTER and SLAVE drive jumpers respectively. The Optical drives should be jumpered in the same fashion as the hard drives: Cable Select for all 4 devices, or Master/Slave configurations for all 4 devices. The SINGLE drive option is for just what it sounds like: a system with a single drive on the cable. Not for you. |