From: Don1 on 30 Apr 2005 08:49 One slug is the mass of matter that requires 32.174 pounds of force to give it an acceleration of 32.174 feet/second/second; which reduces mathematically to 1 slug = 1 pound sec^2/foot. One kilogram is the mass of matter that requires 9.81 newtons of force to give it an acceleration of 9.81 meters/second/second; which reduces mathematically to 1 kilogram = 1 newton sec^2/meter. In their _own systems_ of measure - here on Earth's surface; where g is the acceleration of free fall - the slug, and the kilogram are both numerically equal to g/g, and a pound, and a newton of force are both equal to1/g. Don
From: Double-A on 30 Apr 2005 10:33 Don1 wrote: > One slug is the mass of matter that requires 32.174 pounds of force to > give it an acceleration of 32.174 feet/second/second; which reduces > mathematically to 1 slug = 1 pound sec^2/foot. > > One kilogram is the mass of matter that requires 9.81 newtons of force > to give it an acceleration of 9.81 meters/second/second; which reduces > mathematically to 1 kilogram = 1 newton sec^2/meter. > > In their _own systems_ of measure - here on Earth's surface; where g is > the acceleration of free fall - the slug, and the kilogram are both > numerically equal to g/g, and a pound, and a newton of force are both > equal to1/g. > > Don Don, when are we going to get back to the true definition of a pound? A true pound is defined as equal to 7000 grains, and each grain is equal to an English grown barleycorn! Enough of this politically correct, French-loving definition of ..45359237 kilograms. The English barleycorn is the standard in our system! It's time we stopped kowtowing to the French and returned to the roots of our own system of measure. Any conversion factor between two truly independent systems of measure should always be an irrational number! By the way, Don, how many scruples are there in a dram? Double-A
From: Don1 on 30 Apr 2005 10:54 Double-A wrote: > Don1 wrote: > > One slug is the mass of matter that requires 32.174 pounds of force > to > > give it an acceleration of 32.174 feet/second/second; which reduces > > mathematically to 1 slug = 1 pound sec^2/foot. > > > > One kilogram is the mass of matter that requires 9.81 newtons of > force > > to give it an acceleration of 9.81 meters/second/second; which > reduces > > mathematically to 1 kilogram = 1 newton sec^2/meter. > > > > In their _own systems_ of measure - here on Earth's surface; where g > is > > the acceleration of free fall - the slug, and the kilogram are both > > numerically equal to g/g, and a pound, and a newton of force are both > > equal to1/g. > > > > Don > > > Don, when are we going to get back to the true definition of a pound? > A true pound is defined as equal to 7000 grains, and each grain is > equal to an English grown barleycorn! > > Enough of this politically correct, French-loving definition of > .45359237 kilograms. The English barleycorn is the standard in our > system! > > It's time we stopped kowtowing to the French and returned to the roots > of our own system of measure. > > Any conversion factor between two truly independent systems of measure > should always be an irrational number! > > By the way, Don, how many scruples are there in a dram? > > Double-A That depends on the alcohol content; usually the more alky consumed, the less are the scruples. Don
From: The Ghost In The Machine on 30 Apr 2005 14:00 In sci.physics, Don1 <dcshead(a)charter.net> wrote on 30 Apr 2005 05:49:14 -0700 <1114865354.807092.105550(a)o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>: > One slug is the mass of matter that requires 32.174 pounds of force to > give it an acceleration of 32.174 feet/second/second; which reduces > mathematically to 1 slug = 1 pound sec^2/foot. > > One kilogram is the mass of matter that requires 9.81 newtons of force > to give it an acceleration of 9.81 meters/second/second; which reduces > mathematically to 1 kilogram = 1 newton sec^2/meter. > > In their _own systems_ of measure - here on Earth's surface; where g is > the acceleration of free fall - the slug, and the kilogram are both > numerically equal to g/g, and a pound, and a newton of force are both > equal to1/g. > > Don > He's baaaaaaaaaack..... Some definitions for you. [1] 1 kg is an artifact somewhere in Paris. There is some talk regarding replacing it. There are of course plenty of authorized copies. The best I can do here -- and I don't know how much precision one would get, as there are issues ranging from the exact shape of the meniscus to the proper maintenance of the temperature -- is a cube 10 cm on a side filled with 1 liter of 4 degree C deionized water, then sealed. [2] 1 N is the force required to accelerate that 1 kg 1 m/s/s. [3] If one applies 1 N for 1 second to that 1 kg, one ends up with a kinetic energy of 1 J. [4] 1 m is 1/299792458th the distance light travels in 1 second. [5] 1 s is 9192631770 vibrations of a Cs-133 atom between two specific states. [6] 1 Pascal is 1 N force applied over 1 m^2 area. The Earth's atmosphere is nominally 101325 Pascal, but varies. [7] The Earth's gravity curvature is usually represented as g=9.805 m/s/s, with about a 4-5% variation between equator and poles, if I'm not mistaken. This is not a definition, but a measurement. -- #191, ewill3(a)earthlink.net It's still legal to go .sigless.
From: Double-A on 1 May 2005 08:08 Don1 wrote: > Double-A wrote: > > Don1 wrote: > > > One slug is the mass of matter that requires 32.174 pounds of force > > to > > > give it an acceleration of 32.174 feet/second/second; which reduces > > > mathematically to 1 slug = 1 pound sec^2/foot. > > > > > > One kilogram is the mass of matter that requires 9.81 newtons of > > force > > > to give it an acceleration of 9.81 meters/second/second; which > > reduces > > > mathematically to 1 kilogram = 1 newton sec^2/meter. > > > > > > In their _own systems_ of measure - here on Earth's surface; where > g > > is > > > the acceleration of free fall - the slug, and the kilogram are both > > > numerically equal to g/g, and a pound, and a newton of force are > both > > > equal to1/g. > > > > > > Don > > > > > > Don, when are we going to get back to the true definition of a pound? > > A true pound is defined as equal to 7000 grains, and each grain is > > equal to an English grown barleycorn! > > > > Enough of this politically correct, French-loving definition of > > .45359237 kilograms. The English barleycorn is the standard in our > > system! > > > > It's time we stopped kowtowing to the French and returned to the > roots > > of our own system of measure. > > > > Any conversion factor between two truly independent systems of > measure > > should always be an irrational number! > > > > By the way, Don, how many scruples are there in a dram? > > > > Double-A > > That depends on the alcohol content; usually the more alky consumed, > the less are the scruples. > > Don A good point, Don. That brings up the subject of how important the barleycorn is to the making of some of our favorite alcoholic beverages such as scotch and bourbon. Truly a noble grain! I think we should maintain our own standard barleycorn in an archive at our Bureau of Standards, just as the French have their standard kilogram in Paris. Seven thousand standard barleycorns do a standard American pound make. No better way to exercise our independence from France than by establishing our own standards. What do you think, Don? "Then let us toast John Barleycorn, Each man a glass in hand; And may his great posterity Ne'er fail in old Scotland!" - Bobby Burns Double-A
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