From: Jon Danniken on
JD wrote:
> That is also my opinion. I would not eat anything
> that originated in China. I'm
> trying the find what the chemical in that outgas
> is likely to be. Anyone have a
> spectrometer handy? ;-)
>
> A few months ago I saw cans of beans in Trader
> Joes with the label "Made in
> China" or something very similar. The only thing I
> would feed that to is a hole
> in the ground.

I recently bought a set of fitted sheets which were, of course, made in
maoland. When I brought them home and opened the cute plastic container,
they had a very strong smell of the same grease/chemical/whatever that I can
detect on some of the metal tools I have bought from Harbor Freight.

Took about three loads of hot soapy water to all but get rid of the stink.

Jon


From: JD on
philo wrote:
> JD wrote:
>> Hi Experts,
>>
>> Have you recently bought any plastic-bodied electronics and found an
>> unpleasant chemical stench?
>>
>> I bought an Aluratek internet radio and, after 10 days, it is still
>> sitting
>> in my garage.
>>
>> The stink appears to be coming from the plastic casing but it's hard to
>> tell because the case has ventilation slots.
>>
>> I'm pondering whether to return it.
>>
>> Any experience of stinks like this?
>>
>> TIA
>
>
>
> Just figured out why the radio stinks
>
> probably tuned in to Howard Stern!!!!

Try again. The radio was never connected up.
From: VanguardLH on
kony wrote:

> On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 21:14:26 -0600, VanguardLH <V(a)nguard.LH>
> wrote:
>
>>kony wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 02 Jan 2010 12:07:32 -0800, JD <JD(a)NoDen.con> wrote:
>>>
>>>>That is also my opinion. I would not eat anything
>>>>that originated in China. I'm
>>>>trying the find what the chemical in that outgas
>>>>is likely to be. Anyone have a
>>>>spectrometer handy? ;-)
>>>>
>>>>A few months ago I saw cans of beans in Trader
>>>>Joes with the label "Made in
>>>>China" or something very similar. The only thing I
>>>>would feed that to is a hole
>>>>in the ground.
>>>
>>> Yeah but, there's bound to be people in China shaking their
>>> heads at the US shipping our garbage to them. Their cheap
>>> and nasty manufacturing processes seem to pay off in that
>>> their economy is looking a lot stronger in the future while
>>> the US is going to have to relearn the idea of buying
>>> domestic goods.
>>
>>Of course the devaluing of the US dollar has nothing to do with the loss of
>>any backing of the dollar (since going off the gold standard) which allowed
>>the Federal Reserve (which is not part of the US gov't but a private world
>>bank of foreign investors) to print more money to loan the USA to the point
>>that all income tax now collected only pays the interest on those loans and
>>none of the gov't services that they'll need to get more loans for the next
>>year, along with the stimulus package that made trillions disappear to the
>>world banks that hoarded it. Of course other nations look stronger when we
>>deliberately devalue our own money by printing more of it to hide tax
>>increases or provide stimulus packages.
>
> ... and yet, we're having auto bailouts when the Japanese
> devalued the yen which helped their autos gain ground in the
> US.

And as a consequence the Japanese economy is in tatters. Yes, the
devaluation helps with exports, especially with a country that primarily
exports manufactured goods. Japan is an export economy. Their strategy for
prosperity is producing goods and selling them to foreigners. The Bank of
Japan prints money and then exchanges the yen for *dollars* in the foreign
exchange market, pushing down its price. Japan's economy is much worse than
back in 2003-2004. Their stock market is close to 20-year lows and their
GDP is shrinking. Their interest rate is world's second lowest (after the
USA) and there's no room to cut interest rates. Japan's gov't is the most
indebted in the world; see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_public_debt (I haven't
investigated Zimbabwe as regards to what effect their ruined economy from
hyperinflation has on any of the major 6 nations but I doubt it has any
effect).

Our devaluation doesn't help us in the USA. We aren't an export economy (of
manufactured goods versus raw materials). We are a consumer nation. We're
an import economy. Once we went off the gold standard in 1971 (which
eliminated the government's restraint on printing money) and let our dollar
float and kept borrowing from the Fed and let them keep on printing (to hide
tax increases and cause inflation), our debt ratio started to grow; see
http://zfacts.com/p/318.html. Has there been a time in the past where we
dumped $9.7 trillion all at once ($3 trillion in last 2 years, $5.7 trillion
more pledged) into our money supply? Look at the graph and then realize
that the hockey stick rise (hyperinflation) is coming.