From: Wes Groleau on
Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:
> Q: What's the easist way to discover someone's password?
> A: Ask them for it.

Q. What's the second easiest?
A. Look at the sticky in their desk drawer.

Q. What if there's no sticky?
A. Decree that every password must contain at least one digit,
one capital letter, and one punctuation mark. Then look
at the new sticky in their desk drawer.

--
Wes Groleau

"There are more people worthy of blame
than there is blame to go around."
From: J.J. O'Shea on
On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 21:43:30 -0400, Wes Groleau wrote
(in article <ho3tk4$nrn$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>):

> Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:
>> Q: What's the easist way to discover someone's password?
>> A: Ask them for it.
>
> Q. What's the second easiest?
> A. Look at the sticky in their desk drawer.
>
> Q. What if there's no sticky?
> A. Decree that every password must contain at least one digit,
> one capital letter, and one punctuation mark. Then look
> at the new sticky in their desk drawer.
>
>

Oh, come on. Let's not get carried away. My current main password (I just
changed it about a week ago) has 15 digits, two of which are caps, two
symbols, and two numbers. It's based on where and who with one of my
mother's brothers spent his 27th birthday. (No, the numbers have nothing to
do with the date. Good luck.) Even if I were to put a sticky with 'Uncle
<name redacted> 27' in my desk drawer y'all ain't gonna guess it.

You're free to try, though.

--
email to oshea dot j dot j at gmail dot com.

From: Tom Harrington on
In article <ho4a9u0202q(a)news2.newsguy.com>,
J.J. O'Shea <try.not.to(a)but.see.sig> wrote:

> On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 21:43:30 -0400, Wes Groleau wrote
> (in article <ho3tk4$nrn$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>):
>
> > Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:
> >> Q: What's the easist way to discover someone's password?
> >> A: Ask them for it.
> >
> > Q. What's the second easiest?
> > A. Look at the sticky in their desk drawer.
> >
> > Q. What if there's no sticky?
> > A. Decree that every password must contain at least one digit,
> > one capital letter, and one punctuation mark. Then look
> > at the new sticky in their desk drawer.
>
> Oh, come on. Let's not get carried away. My current main password (I just
> changed it about a week ago) has 15 digits, two of which are caps, two
> symbols, and two numbers. It's based on where and who with one of my
> mother's brothers spent his 27th birthday. (No, the numbers have nothing to
> do with the date. Good luck.) Even if I were to put a sticky with 'Uncle
> <name redacted> 27' in my desk drawer y'all ain't gonna guess it.
>
> You're free to try, though.

Q. What if the person actually has a decent password?
A. Decree that passwords must be changed once a month, or once a week if
necessary, and keep a record of old passwords to avoid repetition. Wait
until a few cycles have passed. Then look at the new sticky in their
desk drawer.

--
Tom "Tom" Harrington
Independent Mac OS X developer since 2002
http://www.atomicbird.com/
From: Steven Fisher on
In article <tph-5BB337.16582421032010(a)localhost>,
Tom Harrington <tph(a)pcisys.no.spam.dammit.net> wrote:

> Q. What if the person actually has a decent password?
> A. Decree that passwords must be changed once a month, or once a week if
> necessary, and keep a record of old passwords to avoid repetition. Wait
> until a few cycles have passed. Then look at the new sticky in their
> desk drawer.

Sigh. This is absolutely true.

Well, it's not *quite* on a sticky. But the site that makes me do this
has a stupid password.


Steve
From: Paul Sture on
In article <michelle-281296.12560716032010(a)nothing.attdns.com>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <36adnbHuSbUESALWnZ2dnUVZ_oMAAAAA(a)giganews.com>,
> Terry Carmen <terry(a)cnysupport.com> wrote:
>
> > That's the problem. I don't know what's happening, except that financial
> > information entered and stored only on that machine is becoming known to
> > people in the company who supposedly have no access to it.
>
> How many people have access to that information? There has to be at least
> one person who knows it before it goes into the computer. How many people
> are there? Also, how many people have access to the data on the computer?

With experience in running accounting systems, some figures just jump
out at you. Back in the days of punch card operators, the data prep and
accounting staff I worked with had a pretty shrewd idea of how large a
profit the company was going to turn in, simply from seeing the monthly
batch totals for purchase and sales invoices.

--
Paul Sture
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