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From: Bruce Horrocks on 6 Sep 2009 12:46
SteveH wrote:
> OK, with an iPhone, you plug in your OWA server addy, name and password,
> then get full access to your Outlook mail, calendar, contacts, etc.
>
> iCal, Address Book and Mail don't work with just the OWA addy, they need
> the 'real' server and I don't have details for that.

Ah, okay, I understand what you're doing now. I think the short answer
is that using the real server means that you are not using OWA but the
MS proprietary protocol.[1]

> It could have been so simple to implement the iPhone version of things
> into Snow Leopard, but Apple appear to have missed a trick here, IMHO.

Unless they are two completely different protocols as I suspect.

Regardless, it looks like you've had it until the relevant upgrades get
applied. Can you "chain sync" messages from Exchange to the iPhone and
then on to the Mac as a stop-gap?

Regards,

[1] But my knowledge of Exchange is not that detailed so I could be wrong.

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From: SteveH on 6 Sep 2009 12:55
Bruce Horrocks <07.013(a)scorecrow.com> wrote:

> SteveH wrote:
> > OK, with an iPhone, you plug in your OWA server addy, name and password,
> > then get full access to your Outlook mail, calendar, contacts, etc.
> >
> > iCal, Address Book and Mail don't work with just the OWA addy, they need
> > the 'real' server and I don't have details for that.
>
> Ah, okay, I understand what you're doing now. I think the short answer
> is that using the real server means that you are not using OWA but the
> MS proprietary protocol.[1]

From what I can tell, MS have allowed Apple to use ActiveSync on the
iPhone, but won't allow it on desktops / laptops.

Will be interesting to see how this applies to the iTablet if it ever
appears.

> > It could have been so simple to implement the iPhone version of things
> > into Snow Leopard, but Apple appear to have missed a trick here, IMHO.
>
> Unless they are two completely different protocols as I suspect.
>
> Regardless, it looks like you've had it until the relevant upgrades get
> applied. Can you "chain sync" messages from Exchange to the iPhone and
> then on to the Mac as a stop-gap?

I could, but it's a bit pointless. If the iPhone pings for a message,
I'll just log onto webmail if I need to see a full-screen message / view
or edit an attachment.

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From: SM on 13 Sep 2009 11:22
David Sankey <David.Sankey(a)stfc.ac.uk> wrote:

> In article <1j5ijwo.1f0577m1ts2zioN%info(a)that.sundog.co.uk>,
> info(a)that.sundog.co.uk (SM) wrote:
>
> > Paul Russell <prussell(a)sonic.net> wrote:
> >
> > > If you set up an Exchange IMAP email account (not an Exchange 2007
> > > account) in Mail.app, there's a field there that lets you enter an OWA
> > > URL. Mind you, this has been there since Leopard, so I expect you've
> > > already tried it and found it lacking ?
> >
> > Is there a way to tell remotely the version of Exchange?
>
> Look in the headers from any mail.
>
> One originating on the system will most likely contain something like
>
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5
>
> and one received by the system something like
>
> Received: from ... ([x.x.x.x]) by ... with Microsoft
> SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959)
>
> These tell you in this case that it's Exchange 2003.

That's strange - neither Exchange system I use produce anything useful
like that in the long headers .

Stuart
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From: Ben Shimmin on 13 Sep 2009 11:38
SM <info(a)that.sundog.co.uk>:

[...]

> That's strange - neither Exchange system I use produce anything useful
> like that in the long headers .

I discovered that telnetting to port 110 (POP3) gives some useful
information.

b.

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