From: Jan Panteltje on
On a sunny day (Sun, 30 May 2010 21:03:16 -0700) it happened Robert Baer
<robertbaer(a)localnet.com> wrote in
<aNednXw0P7ZkqZ7RnZ2dnUVZ_qOdnZ2d(a)posted.localnet>:

> Well, absolutely NO energy source is renewable; the sun is in a
>downward nuclear fission / fusion path leading to iron.
> What i looked for was an energy source that did not require energy
>rich carbon sources (trees, oil); the other alternative would be foot
>powered generators.

Well, oil is free these days, just take a bucket and help the clean-up.
And if you are a veggy then feet powered generators bikes0
are fed by your eating vegetables.
So there really is no problem.


From: PeterD on
On Sun, 30 May 2010 20:54:51 -0700, Robert Baer
<robertbaer(a)localnet.com> wrote:

>Artemus wrote:
>> "Robert Baer" <robertbaer(a)localnet.com> wrote in message
>> news:9e-dnUxMSfcAS5_RnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d(a)posted.localnet...
>>> I did a survey and this is the best i got.
>>> Makers: (1) BP Solar technology: Advanced multicrystalline &
>>> monocrystalline silicon nitride; (2) First Solar modules: Thin film
>>> cadmium telluride; (3) Nanosolar: Thin film CIGS (copper indium gallium
>>> selenium); (4) Sharp: Monocrystalline & polycrystalline (silicon?) (Thin
>>> film?); (5) Evergreen Solar: Silicon (Mono? Poly? not mentioned).
>>>
>>> The questions in above are due to incompleteness of disclosure (on
>>> the web).
>>>
>>> Of those technologies, which one is the MOST efficient in conversion
>>> of light / solar energy to electrical power (assume ideal load for given
>>> panel)?
>>> Is there another (commercially available) technology even more efficient?
>>
>> Are you restricted in the available real estate on which to put your collector(s)?
>> Are you concerned about the cost to place them in orbit?
>> If not then you may want to consider the $/watt efficiency instead.
>> Or not.
>> Art
>>
>>
> No real estate restrictions but do not need much panel area to light
>a small room.
> Orbit? Are you nuts?
> Do you have an an answer to the posed question?

He might have had an answer, but I predict he won't remember it now...
From: Sylvia Else on
On 31/05/2010 1:54 PM, Robert Baer wrote:
> Artemus wrote:
>> "Robert Baer" <robertbaer(a)localnet.com> wrote in message
>> news:9e-dnUxMSfcAS5_RnZ2dnUVZ_qKdnZ2d(a)posted.localnet...
>>> I did a survey and this is the best i got.
>>> Makers: (1) BP Solar technology: Advanced multicrystalline &
>>> monocrystalline silicon nitride; (2) First Solar modules: Thin film
>>> cadmium telluride; (3) Nanosolar: Thin film CIGS (copper indium gallium
>>> selenium); (4) Sharp: Monocrystalline & polycrystalline (silicon?) (Thin
>>> film?); (5) Evergreen Solar: Silicon (Mono? Poly? not mentioned).
>>>
>>> The questions in above are due to incompleteness of disclosure (on
>>> the web).
>>>
>>> Of those technologies, which one is the MOST efficient in conversion
>>> of light / solar energy to electrical power (assume ideal load for given
>>> panel)?
>>> Is there another (commercially available) technology even more
>>> efficient?
>>
>> Are you restricted in the available real estate on which to put your
>> collector(s)?
>> Are you concerned about the cost to place them in orbit?
>> If not then you may want to consider the $/watt efficiency instead.
>> Or not.
>> Art
>>
>>
> No real estate restrictions but do not need much panel area to light a
> small room.

I'd just open the curtains myself.

> Orbit? Are you nuts?

It's a reasonable question. Solar panels are frequently sent into orbit.

Sylvia.
From: John Fields on
On Mon, 31 May 2010 22:25:27 +1000, Sylvia Else
<sylvia(a)not.here.invalid> wrote:

>On 31/05/2010 1:54 PM, Robert Baer wrote:

>> No real estate restrictions but do not need much panel area to light a
>> small room.
>
>I'd just open the curtains myself.

---
Where I live, sometimes it gets dark outside.

From: Sylvia Else on
On 31/05/2010 10:43 PM, John Fields wrote:
> On Mon, 31 May 2010 22:25:27 +1000, Sylvia Else
> <sylvia(a)not.here.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 31/05/2010 1:54 PM, Robert Baer wrote:
>
>>> No real estate restrictions but do not need much panel area to light a
>>> small room.
>>
>> I'd just open the curtains myself.
>
> ---
> Where I live, sometimes it gets dark outside.
>

Yes, but I find that solar panels don't work too well then anyway.

Sylvia.