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From: jlbeen on 4 Apr 2007 13:16 > > I'm hardly anonymous and I assure you I know how to use SW. I have > used it full time for the eight years creating REAL machine drawings. > Ie. 8000 parts or more assemblies, thousands of drawings, weldments, > machining drawings and more. I worked for a VAR for some time teaching You just need proper training. I was trained by Bob Zee. I have only been using SolidWorks for about 4 yrs. and have done several large machine designs completely in SolidWorks. The last machine had 10,000+ parts. I haven't had issues at all. Perhaps you could contact Bob Zee and get a little training on how to manage larger assemblies. A little creating the drawings sure. Still better than Autocad so I don't complain
From: sbpowdercoating on 4 Apr 2007 13:22 Thanks for the advice Pete! I just installed 2007 SP0. I got to say It's still pretty slow, for the drawing part of it. I still can't get rid of the hatching either. I mean a simple cross section. The tools option is set at none and the auto hatching in the section view is checked of as well. I do not want to right click all the hatching individually and turn it off, which takes 51 seconds to do (yes I counted). Does anyone else has the same problem? Cheers! MDesign
From: devlin on 4 Apr 2007 13:57 On Apr 4, 11:16 am, "jlb...(a)gmail.com" <jlb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I'm hardly anonymous and I assure you I know how to use SW. I have > > used it full time for the eight years creating REAL machine drawings. > > Ie. 8000 parts or more assemblies, thousands of drawings, weldments, > > machining drawings and more. I worked for a VAR for some time teaching > > You just need proper training. I was trained by Bob Zee. I have only > been using SolidWorks for about 4 yrs. and have done several large > machine designs completely in SolidWorks. The last machine had > 10,000+ parts. I haven't had issues at all. Perhaps you could > contact Bob Zee and get a little training on how to manage larger > assemblies. > > A little creating the drawings sure. Still better than Autocad so I > don't complain Really? How the heck would you know that I need training or not. I know how to deal with large assemblies already, believe me I've been chasing the large assembly thing for years. I have machines that are feature intensive and although they have some subs this particular machine is mostly top level with many top level mates. If you had a machine with 10,000+ parts and had no problems then it was because you had it entirely broken into subassemblies with few top level mates and in lightweight mode with simple parts. My product structure does not allow for that. Try most of the parts being top level, feature rich parts, weldments, sheet metal and so on combined with the fact that the assembly needs to be dynamic with moving hydraulic cylinders, splines and gears. It doesn't work well and it has nothing to do with my training level. Keep your assumptions to yourself.
From: jlbeen on 4 Apr 2007 14:55 > > Try most of the parts being top level, feature rich parts, weldments, > sheet metal and so on combined with the fact that the assembly needs > to be dynamic with moving hydraulic cylinders, splines and gears. It > doesn't work well and it has nothing to do with my training level. > Keep your assumptions to yourself. Using Cylinders, gears and splines and then expecting them to be dynamic is amazing. You got me. The last machine I designed that was 10000+ components was actually comprised of 10000 1x1x1 blocks. I guess instead of "chasing the large assembly issues" I have focused on finding ways to work with it instead of against it.
From: Dale Dunn on 4 Apr 2007 15:14
> Try most of the parts being top level, feature rich parts, weldments, > sheet metal and so on combined with the fact that the assembly needs > to be dynamic with moving hydraulic cylinders, splines and gears. It > doesn't work well and it has nothing to do with my training level. > Keep your assumptions to yourself. I have to agree with Bob Zee's acolyte here. What you're describing says to me that you're not taking advantage of the best methods for handling large assemblies. Stuff that VARs may not teach. It certainly seems that SW could be faster, but it sounds to me that you're not getting all the speed (or un-slow) out of SW that you could. You mention a few things that I might recommend (not necessarily lightwieght) that your product structure does not allow. How is it that your product is not compatable with large assembly management techniques? |