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From: jimsym on 4 Oct 2007 10:41 In this case, I gleaned a lot of helpful information - even if it wasn't specifically in answer to your question. There has been a lot of misinformation about SolidWorks on Vista floating around. People's experiences with the prerelease SW2007 software was less than stellar. It's good to hear positive reports about SW2008 on Vista. Sure wish they'd at least run as a 32-bit app on Vista-64, though. My recommendations for customers: If SW2007, stick with XP if possible. If SW2008. Large datasets will still require XP-64. For others, Vista/XP is about equal - as long as the hardware is up to snuff. Supposedly, Vista-32 makes better use of the 4th gig or RAM, so While the Quadro FX550/560 cards are fine for XP, but right now I'd strongly recommend at least an FX 1500 for Vista. The next generation Quadro cards should be much better for Vista. I'd expect the FX 570 to be a good entry level card and the FX 1700 good for all but the most extreme users.
From: zxys on 4 Oct 2007 11:35 Daisy, Kewl! Yeah, this is close to what I see as well, 2008 is more inconsistent with releasing the data to the user. This delay started with 2006 (but it's not terrible) but with 2007 it was a clear delay and now 2008, it's very clear and varied. The other issues are... the open and the save time,..(or the total time from hitting the open and save button to when the data is accessable) there is a clear delay over previous releases as well. This ALL adds up!! Hmm, the out of context issues,well,.. although that may add to the way the data is released to the user, it's not something that normally should be a issue in either release, there shouldn't be any warnings? Unless you have your settings warning you? I don't see warnings, if that is what you mean? Anyhow, the delay issues in SW2008 are very real!! Personally, I don't think this will be fixed, this seems like a core problem in how the data is being handed over from the CPU to the GPU and storage? It's as if there fundamental bottleneck (hardware) issues with moving the data? Anyway, thanks! ... On Oct 3, 10:25 pm, ChamberPot <Daisy...(a)Flower.org> wrote: > zxys wrote: > > Daisy, > > > Thanks for that... but, actually not mkay. > > The whole point of this test is getting a accurate value at full > > control of the model. > > Feature statistic numbers are unreliable for real work values, it does > > not capture the real issue of the strange delays you were seeing. > > 100 seconds nominal is not close to the values I've witnessed,.. I've > > seen 150% to 200% increases in the times over the Feature statistic > > times. > > That is why I wanted someone to show this.. and, I appreciate you > > doing this!! > > sorry for beig such a drunken slacker, but let's just say its > proportional. most of the times to have control were like this: > > (feat stat / time to control) > > 2008+vista = 219/315 > 2008+xp = 226/285 > 2007+xp = 235/275 > > vista did some rell werd stuff. It was like it would give you control, > and then you move the mouse and it would do the hourglass (or that new > ring thing) again, so it was hard to tell when it was really done. > > > > > IMHO, it's not out of context to real issues with using SW2007 and > > SW2008. > > I meant the model has out of context references, you know ->? > > Daisy. > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com
From: Jerry Steiger on 4 Oct 2007 14:57 "ChamberPot" <DaisyPot(a)Flower.org> wrote in message news:47046d75$0$26359$88260bb3(a)free.teranews.com... > (feat stat / time to control) > > 2008+vista = 219/315 > 2008+xp = 226/285 > 2007+xp = 235/275 That's really interesting. The feature statistics show a clear progression, from 2007 to 2008 and then from xp to vista. The "real world" numbers show a clear regression. The marketing guys can honestly (in a devious, slimy, marketing sort of way) say "it's getting better all the time". Users can honestly say "it's getting slower all the time". Jerry Steiger
From: Cliff on 10 Oct 2007 03:11
On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:54:41 -0400, ChamberPot <DaisyPot(a)Flower.org> wrote: >copying those really tough playground >bullies with calloused sphincters from alt,machines,cnc. <Sheesh> You should see a few wingers from misc.survivalism. Their kibble & dehydrated water makes them grumpy (as does the lack of "MWds" (they have problems telling Ws & Ms apart so I'm helping <g>). -- Cliff |