From: Gc on 14 Nov 2009 11:27 On 14 marras, 15:13, Peter <Poakfi...(a)msn.com> wrote: > Hi! Please could someone help me? I would like to know how to solve > the subject expression in terms of x and t. I gather the correct > solution is d^2x/dt^2 = 2x/t^2. If this is correct, how do I arrive > to it? Could I present it just at it is? Try to separate the variables.
From: Greg Neill on 14 Nov 2009 11:53 Peter wrote: > On Nov 14, 10:29 am, "Greg Neill" <gneil...(a)MOVEsympatico.ca> wrote: >> Peter wrote: >>> On Nov 14, 8:36 am, KY <wkfkh...(a)yahoo.co.jp> wrote: >>>> http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=+d%5E2x%2Fdt%5E2+%3D+2x%2Ft%5E2. >> >>> Thank you very much. Do you mean that I could put in a paper (which I >>> am writing) x"(t) = 2x(t)/t^2 without more explanation? Is it >>> acceptable? >> >> No. It is not acceptable. x''(t) = 2x(t)/t^2 only holds >> under particular conditions; it is not true in general. > > I understand it is true when the force is constant. Are there other > conditions? Sure: - Acceleration is constant - Initial velocity is zero - Initial position (x) is zero Example: A car passes mile marker 3.0 doing 40 mph at time t0 = 15 seconds, whereupon it accelerates at a contant rate of 2 mph/second for 10 seconds, after which it resumes moving with constant velocity. At what time will it pass mile marker 20? What will be its velocity at that time?
From: glird on 14 Nov 2009 12:33 On Nov 14, 8:13 am, Peter <Poakfi...(a)msn.com> wrote: > Hi! Please could someone help me? I would like to know how to solve the subject expression in terms of x and t. > The subject expression, d^2x/dt^2, is a second differential one. I think its "solution" would therefore be a first differential expression, which in this case would be dx/dt. ><I gather the correct solution is d^2x/dt^2 = 2x/t^2. > An "expression" is a member of an equation, not the equation itself. You wrote an expression but not an equation in which it appears. I think it would, by itself, be equal to 2x/dt. If so, then dx/dt = 2 units/second = v. *IF* that is right, then d^2x/dt^2 is the rate of change of v; thus is an acceleration, so d^2x/dt^2 = dx/dt^2 = (dx/dt)/dt = a. (In the latter equation, the "d" symbolizes "delta". In the expression dx/dt it doesn't denote delta because the parameters of length and time may be linear; i.e. the space and time they measure are "homogeneous", i.e. uniform in all directions everywhere regardless of which system measures them.) glird
From: glird on 14 Nov 2009 12:45 On Nov 14, 12:33 pm, glird wrote: > >< The subject expression, d^2x/dt^2, is a second differential one. I think its "solution" would therefore be a first differential expression, which in this case would be dx/dt. ... I think it would, by itself, be equal to 2x/dt. > Please excuse me for writing 2x there. It should have been dx/dt, as written prior to and after this typo. glird
From: Ken Pledger on 15 Nov 2009 15:52 In article <93498fd6-e0c0-44b3-8471-64cc9e8a1f27(a)j9g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>, Peter <Poakfield(a)msn.com> wrote: > Hi! Please could someone help me? I would like to know how to solve > the subject expression in terms of x and t. I gather the correct > solution is d^2x/dt^2 = 2x/t^2. If this is correct, how do I arrive > to it? Could I present it just at it is? Something isn't clear here. You've written a differential equation for x as a function of t. The next step would be to solve it. This solution process doesn't appear to be your main concern, i.e. it doesn't look like homework. :-) So I'll just tell you the answer: x must have the form a(t^2) + b/t where the constants a and b will depend upon other conditions in your problem. HTH Ken Pledger.
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