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From: kenseto on 31 Jul 2010 09:38
On Jul 30, 11:37 am, moro...(a)world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
wrote:
> kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> writes:
> >On Jul 29, 11:41 am, moro...(a)world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
> >wrote:
> >> kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> writes:
> >> >On Jul 28, 3:30 pm, moro...(a)world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
> >> >wrote:
> >> >> Pick one or the other:
>
> >> >> 1) "IRT is a super set of SR."
> >> >> 2) "[IRT] rejects the faulty SR assertion that all clocks moving wrt
> >> >> the observer are running slow."
> >> >Both of these sentences are correct. SR is a subset of IRT because it
> >> >does not include the possibility that an observed clock can run faster
> >> >than the observer's clock.
>
> >> Because SR makes an explicit prediction about observed clocks, and
> >> these prediction *never* include an observed clock running faster than
> >> the observer's clock,
> >Hey idiot that's why SR is incomplete.....it make the bogus assertion
> >that clocks in relative motion see each other running slow. In real
> >life if clock B is truly running slower than clock A then clock A is
> >running faster than clock B.
>
> You are stating by this that SR is *wrong*, not "incomplete". "Incomplete"
> means not making a prediction on what happens.  

Sigh....SR failed to include the possibility that an observed clock
can run faster than the observer's clock is incomplete.

Ken Seto

>example, Newtonian
> mechanics makes no prediction about how clocks run in moving objects other
> than an implicit assumption that time flows at a constant rate.  It is
> incomplete.
>
> >> there is an explicit conflict between SR and IRT.
> >> Thus SR cannot be a subset of IRT.
>
> >> We'll just have to add "subset" and "superset" to the list of words Ken
> >> has redefined.
>
> Do we need to add "incomplete" to this growing list?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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