Something REALLY unusual refilling my new HP 97 cartridge.
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From: Dave C. on 22 Mar 2010 11:26 Something REALLY unusual is happening refilling my new HP 97 cartridge dated 2010 (for my HP Deskjet 6980). From my earlier posts, when the cartridge went to zero, the printer became disabled. After refilling the cartridge, the printer still wouldn't print because the level measured zero, unlike the pre-2010 dated ones. Well, I took the color cartridge out, printed with only the black cartridge for a day or two. Then just a shot in the dark, I put the color cartridge back in and it started working....all nozzles working 100% and the level measured 25%. That worked for a day or two then the level again went to zero and the printer then became disabled. Took the color cartridge out and printer with only black for a day or two. After a couple of days, I again put the color cartridge back and the level again measured 25% and all nozzles working again. This gets repeated on and on every few days. How about that! So as long as I want to print color ever other day or so, this could work for a while. What a nuisance. Hopefully someone can come up with a workaround. Regards, Dave C.
From: Arthur Entlich on 23 Mar 2010 09:58 My guess is that the printer has a "memory" of the cartridge serial number or some other such device. What you might want to try is to install a few different cartridges (new full ones??) and then your refilled one again. I seem to recall that some HP printers were able to remember up to 2 or so cartridge numbers and would do things like you report, and that people would swap a couple of (new full??) cartridges they had around. I may not be recollecting correctly if they needed to be new full ones or not. It is possible it may work with old empty ones. Art If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste, I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog: http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/ Dave C. wrote: > Something REALLY unusual is happening refilling my new HP 97 cartridge > dated 2010 (for my HP Deskjet 6980). > > From my earlier posts, when the cartridge went to zero, the printer > became disabled. After refilling the cartridge, the printer still > wouldn't print because the level measured zero, unlike the pre-2010 > dated ones. > > Well, I took the color cartridge out, printed with only the black > cartridge for a day or two. > > Then just a shot in the dark, I put the color cartridge back in and it > started working....all nozzles working 100% and the level measured > 25%. > > That worked for a day or two then the level again went to zero and the > printer then became disabled. Took the color cartridge out and > printer with only black for a day or two. > > After a couple of days, I again put the color cartridge back and the > level again measured 25% and all nozzles working again. > > This gets repeated on and on every few days. > > How about that! So as long as I want to print color ever other day or > so, this could work for a while. > > What a nuisance. Hopefully someone can come up with a workaround. > > Regards, Dave C.
From: DJT on 23 Mar 2010 19:31 I refill HP 56 & 57 on a regular basis and used to refill HP97. I keep several empty cartridges to cycle thru to reset the ink levels. You don't need new full cartridges, old ones will do. As long as they are recognised by the printer. I insert an old cartridge and wait until it does the cartridge alignment. The put in a second one and do the same. The printer only remembers 2 cartridge S/N so after 2 you can put the refilled cartridgr back in and it is showing as full. Just as long as you don't use Vista or Win 7 which only have basic printer drivers with any ability to check ink level. DJT On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 05:58:54 -0800, Arthur Entlich <e-printerhelp(a)mvps.org> wrote: >My guess is that the printer has a "memory" of the cartridge serial >number or some other such device. > >What you might want to try is to install a few different cartridges (new >full ones??) and then your refilled one again. > >I seem to recall that some HP printers were able to remember up to 2 or >so cartridge numbers and would do things like you report, and that >people would swap a couple of (new full??) cartridges they had around. > >I may not be recollecting correctly if they needed to be new full ones >or not. It is possible it may work with old empty ones. > >Art > >If you are interested in issues surrounding e-waste, > I invite you to enter the discussion at my blog: > > http://e-trashtalk.spaces.live.com/ > >Dave C. wrote: >> Something REALLY unusual is happening refilling my new HP 97 cartridge >> dated 2010 (for my HP Deskjet 6980). >> >> From my earlier posts, when the cartridge went to zero, the printer >> became disabled. After refilling the cartridge, the printer still >> wouldn't print because the level measured zero, unlike the pre-2010 >> dated ones. >> >> Well, I took the color cartridge out, printed with only the black >> cartridge for a day or two. >> >> Then just a shot in the dark, I put the color cartridge back in and it >> started working....all nozzles working 100% and the level measured >> 25%. >> >> That worked for a day or two then the level again went to zero and the >> printer then became disabled. Took the color cartridge out and >> printer with only black for a day or two. >> >> After a couple of days, I again put the color cartridge back and the >> level again measured 25% and all nozzles working again. >> >> This gets repeated on and on every few days. >> >> How about that! So as long as I want to print color ever other day or >> so, this could work for a while. >> >> What a nuisance. Hopefully someone can come up with a workaround. >> >> Regards, Dave C.
From: TJ on 24 Mar 2010 07:25 On 03/23/2010 07:31 PM, DJT wrote: > I refill HP 56& 57 on a regular basis and used to refill HP97. I keep > several empty cartridges to cycle thru to reset the ink levels. > You don't need new full cartridges, old ones will do. > As long as they are recognised by the printer. > I insert an old cartridge and wait until it does the cartridge > alignment. The put in a second one and do the same. > The printer only remembers 2 cartridge S/N so after 2 you can put the > refilled cartridgr back in and it is showing as full. > Just as long as you don't use Vista or Win 7 which only have basic > printer drivers with any ability to check ink level. > > DJT > > Same here, except that I use Linux almost exclusively. I don't have experience with the Windows drivers above Windows 2000, but I can tell you that the Linux drivers are much better than the ones I've seen about getting ink levels from the printer. With W2K, a dialog box will open, warning me about the ink levels - but they are usually the levels stored from some other time. If I print a second run, the levels jump to the proper values. Linux doesn't do that. It will check the levels for me and report them only if I ask, and they are the correct values. But of course the difference is simply because driver development was closed for older Windows versions long ago, while Linux driver development is still active. TJ -- There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
From: Dave C. on 25 Mar 2010 13:40 On Mar 24, 7:25 am, TJ <T...(a)noneofyour.business> wrote: > On 03/23/2010 07:31 PM, DJT wrote:> I refill HP 56& 57 on a regular basis and used to refill HP97. I keep > > several empty cartridges to cycle thru to reset the ink levels. > > You don't need new full cartridges, old ones will do. > > As long as they are recognised by the printer. > > I insert an old cartridge and wait until it does the cartridge > > alignment. The put in a second one and do the same. > > The printer only remembers 2 cartridge S/N so after 2 you can put the > > refilled cartridgr back in and it is showing as full. > > Just as long as you don't use Vista or Win 7 which only have basic > > printer drivers with any ability to check ink level. > > > DJT > > Same here, except that I use Linux almost exclusively. I don't have > experience with the Windows drivers above Windows 2000, but I can tell > you that the Linux drivers are much better than the ones I've seen about > getting ink levels from the printer. With W2K, a dialog box will open, > warning me about the ink levels - but they are usually the levels stored > from some other time. If I print a second run, the levels jump to the > proper values. > > Linux doesn't do that. It will check the levels for me and report them > only if I ask, and they are the correct values. But of course the > difference is simply because driver development was closed for older > Windows versions long ago, while Linux driver development is still active.. > > TJ > -- > There ain't no such thing as a free lunch. I will have to accumulate a few more cartridges. I have the one I refilled, a new one on the shelf and I'll have to pick up another one sometime. Thanks, Dave C.
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