From: Dustin on 1 Jul 2010 11:07 Generally, problems encountered with XP clients versus 2008 servers are caused by SMB2. A workaround for this problem is to turn SMB2 off on the server. 1.Run "regedit" on Windows Server 2008 based computer. 2.Expand and locate the sub tree as follows. HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\LanmanServer\Parameters 3.Add a new REG_DWORD key with the name of "Smb2" (without quotation mark) Value name: Smb2 Value type: REG_DWORD 0 = disabled 1 = enabled 4.Set the value to 0 to disable SMB 2.0, or set it to 1 to re-enable SMB 2.0. 5.Reboot the server. Full link here: http://www.petri.co.il/how-to-disable-smb-2-on-windows-vista-or-server-2008.htm OneginNH wrote: SBS 2008 Slow Network Performance with Windows XP Clients 04-Feb-10 Two months ago I completed an uneventful install of SBS 2008 for a company of about 25 users on brand-new hardware. The only significance issues since the install have been performance-related, specifically that browsing shared folders on the server is very slow (displaying the contents of folders, for example). Opening large documents and media files is also very slow, and at least one server-based Visual Foxpro program which ran very fast under the old Server 2003 server slows to a crawl with the new server. However, all these woes disappear if the client is Windows 7 - the speed difference is night and day! Is there something that can be done to tweak Windows XP to perform better with SBS 2008? The client does not have the budget to undertake a migration to Windows 7 at this time. Previous Posts In This Thread: On Thursday, February 04, 2010 8:16 AM OneginNH wrote: SBS 2008 Slow Network Performance with Windows XP Clients Two months ago I completed an uneventful install of SBS 2008 for a company of about 25 users on brand-new hardware. The only significance issues since the install have been performance-related, specifically that browsing shared folders on the server is very slow (displaying the contents of folders, for example). Opening large documents and media files is also very slow, and at least one server-based Visual Foxpro program which ran very fast under the old Server 2003 server slows to a crawl with the new server. However, all these woes disappear if the client is Windows 7 - the speed difference is night and day! Is there something that can be done to tweak Windows XP to perform better with SBS 2008? The client does not have the budget to undertake a migration to Windows 7 at this time. On Thursday, February 04, 2010 12:14 PM Larry Struckmeyer[SBS-MVP] wrote: Should not be such (any) differences. Something else is going on. Should not be such (any) differences. Something else is going on. Is the SBS the DHCP server for the LAN? Were all the computers joined to the domain with the wizards.? Are all updates current? Do all devices use the same switch? Please post the results of the command: ipconfig /all > c:\iptest.txt from the server, and one each XP and 7 stations. Please do not change anything, and please tell us which is which. - Larry Please post the resolution to your issue so others may benefit - Get Your SBS Health Check at www.sbsbpa.com On Thursday, February 04, 2010 1:44 PM OneginNH wrote: Hi Larry, thanks for your response. Hi Larry, thanks for your response. I apologize in advance for the length of this reply. To answer your questions: Yes, the SBS server is the DHCP server for the LAN Yes, all the computers were joined to the network with the SBS wizard (as a side note, it came as a big surprise that I had to install .NET on all the XP workstations in order to use the wizard. The .NET version install was version 3, then it was patched to the latest 3.5 -- latest as of late November 2009 anyway. The process was incredibly time-consuming but yes, it was done for every XP machine and the wizard was used in all cases). Yes, I am fanatical about Windows updates on all machines. No, not all devices use the same switch. There are four switches and there is no correlation between which switch the user is tied to. Below are the ipconfig results for the server (first) and an XP workstation (second). Unfortunately I do not have a Windows 7 machine on the network and I am not able to give you the ipconfig for that box. I do, however, have that box here in my office and although I would not be able to connect to the network we are talking about, I could certainly post the ipconfig for however it comes up when not attached to the network - if you think that would be helpful). BTW I realize that having the second ethernet connection on the server (listed first in the ipconfig.txt) enabled is not recommended, and in fact I will be disabling it in the near future. It was only enabled as an experiment in light of this network slowness problem. I can assure you that the speed issue existed before that NIC was enabled, whcih was only recently. One other note, early on I contacted Intel about this becuase of a hotfix that Microsoft has concerning a problem with the I/O Acceleration technology in some of their network adapters. They seemed to know nothing about it (and this was the file server group at Intel) and pointed me back to Microsoft. I never installed the hotfix in question becuase it did not specifically match the set up the customer has nor the exact circumstances, although it does sound very close. The issue is discussed on kb 968991. But perhaps this is the area I need to revisit. I just got cold feet when Intel did not even know about something that seemed to me like it would be such a big issue out there in the world. Thank you again for your help. Server ipconfig: Windows IP Configuration Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : RIVERSERV Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : rivernet.local Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcast IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : rivernet.local Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection 2: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : rivernet.local Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 EB Network Connection with I/O Acceleration #2 Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-15-17-89-B6-31 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::417f:5349:45e0:36ff%11(Preferred) IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.14(Preferred) Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, February 01, 2010 1:56:47 PM Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Tuesday, February 09, 2010 1:57:03 PM Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection: Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/1000 EB Network Connection with I/O Acceleration Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-15-17-89-B6-30 DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::597a:87bb:43e9:5b20%10(Preferred) Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::69f1:45cd:1c59:bf30%10(Preferred) IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.10(Preferred) Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1 DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::69f1:45cd:1c59:bf30%10 192.168.1.10 NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 8: Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : Description . . . . . . . . . . . : On Thursday, February 04, 2010 5:49 PM Al Williams wrote: I'd verify that none of advanced networking stuff (TCP Chimney Offload,etc. I'd verify that none of advanced networking stuff (TCP Chimney Offload, etc.) is enabled on the server first, it tends to cause issues with older PC's. Have you run the SBS BPA? Anything in the logs of the server or clients? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951037 -- Allan Williams OneginNH wrote: On Friday, February 05, 2010 9:01 AM OneginNH wrote: Hi Al and thank you for your response. Hi Al and thank you for your response. To answer your questions: 1) In regard to "advanced networking stuff" I am not sure where/how to find that kind of thing. I guess I can poke around. In calling Intel about this I woudl have thought they could/woudl point me in this direction (if needed) since both the server NIC and the workstation NICs are Intel (actually that is not strictly true, one of the worst performers under Windows XP has a Realtek NIC). But, yes, what you are suggesting has been on my mind ever since I ran across that KB 968991 article that I mention elsewhere in this (rather long) posting - problem with that 968991 article is that it does not strictly apply to my circumstances. But it talks about Intel Advanced I/O stuff which is what you are pointing me to. Why Intel would not have known about such an issue is a mystery to me and for these various reasons I have therefore held off on applying the 968991 hotfix - do you think I shoudl do it? 2) In regard to the SBS BPA I am a bit embarrassed to say that I had not run it. Why? Because with the BPA for the Exchange piece built right in to the O/S, I guess I assumed that the BPA tool for SBS would be built right into the SBS console alongside all the other error checking that tool constantly does. Anyway once I saw your note I immediately downloaded the SBS 2008 BPA. Right off the bat I did show the only critical error (expected), which was that the DNS A resource record was pointing to both NIC's on the server. As mentioned elsehwere in this mammoth post, the second serve NIC got turned on recently only as an experiemnt and it did not change things at all. Anyway this mornign I shut off that second NIC again and ran BPA again and the critical error is gone for DNS. There are no critical errors. The remaining non-critical issues are, of course, of concern but I have no idea where to focus/get started -- I need to solve the slow network problem before I do any of the more refined fine-tuning stuff - as I am sure you can appreciate. But perhaps the key to my performance issus is in these issues, and I have posted them below (below my next and last answer to your questions) -- if there is any feedback you can provide I would most appreciate it. 3) You ask about logs on the server and the workstations. Yes I have checked and not seen anything obvious but I agree, I need to do some careful analysis there, which I will proceed to do. If you have any suggestions as to what to focus on in the logs that would be appreciated. Thank you and here are the issues shown by BPA at this time: All Issues Exchange Server 2007 with Service Pack 1 : The server RIVERSERV is running Exchange Server 2007 with Service Pack 1; however, Service Pack 2 for Exchange Server 2007 is available. For more information, see "You cannot install Exchange Server 2007 Service Pack 2 on a Windows Small Business Server 2008-based computer" in the Microsoft Knowledge Base at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=163940. Add-On Congestion Control Provider : Add-On Congestion Control Provider is set to ctcp. To disable Add-On Congestion Control Provider, click Start, and in the Search box type "command." in the results, right-click Command Prompt, and then click Run as administrator. At the command prompt, run the following command: netsh int tcp set global congestion=none Firewall is disabled : The Firewall has been disabled and by default is enabled on Windows Small Business Server IE Enhanced Security disabled : IE Enhanced Security is currently disabled for Administrators. To enable IE Enhanced Security go to Start/Server Manager and click on the Configure IE ESC link on the right. Local activation permission to the IIS WAMREG Admin Service required : The Network Service is missing local activation permissions to the IIS WAMREG admin Service in accordance with the event ID 10016 in the system event log. For more information, see KB "Event ID error messages 10016 and 10017 are logged in the System log after you install Windows SharePoint Services 3.0" at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=128063. Note: This warning will continue to appear until at least 24 hours have passed since the most recent occurrence of event 10016. Receive Window Auto-Tuning Level : Receive Window Auto-Tuning Level is set to normal. To disable Receive Window Auto-Tuning Level, click Start, and in the Search box type "command." in the results, right-click Command Prompt, and then click Run as administrator. At the command prompt, run the following command: netsh int tcp set global autotuning=disabled Receive-Side Scaling State : Receive-Side Scaling State is set to enabled. To disable Receive-Side Scaling, click Start, and in the Search box type "command." in the results, right-click Command Prompt, and then click Run as administrator. At the command prompt, run the following command: netsh int tcp set global rss=disabled remote.riverwebnh.com does not exist in the BackConnectionHostNames registry key : The BackConnectionHostNames key should include the value On Friday, February 05, 2010 9:21 AM OneginNH wrote: To ask an obvious question, could my issue be as simple as not having IP6 To ask an obvious question, could my issue be as simple as not having IP6 on the XP workstations? Could that be why Windows 7 has no problems and XP does? "OneginNH" wrote: On Friday, February 05, 2010 12:13 PM Al Williams wrote: The BPA pointed to several "advanced" networking settings that were enabledand The BPA pointed to several "advanced" networking settings that were enabled and should be disabled: Add-On Congestion Control Provider Receive Window Auto-Tuning Level Receive-Side Scaling State Task Offload Fix those first using the instructions given and see if it helps. Also look into the other settings (Firewall is disabled?). -- Allan Williams OneginNH wrote: On Friday, February 05, 2010 12:13 PM Al Williams wrote: No, I do not think so. No, I do not think so. BTW - Do not disable IP6 on SBS, that *will* cause issues. -- Allan Williams OneginNH wrote: On Monday, February 08, 2010 1:28 PM OneginNH wrote: Hi - I made those four changes to the "advanced" settings and there was Hi - I made those four changes to the "advanced" settings and there was no difference in the performance. Do you have any other suggestions at this time? If not then I guess my next steps need to be to install the various service packs mentioned inthe BPA, including SP2 for Sharepoint 3.0 and SP2 for Server 2008. "Al Williams" wrote: On Monday, February 08, 2010 1:40 PM Al Williams wrote: Look into the device manager at the advanced properties of your SBS's NICand Look into the device manager at the advanced properties of your SBS's NIC and ensure none of the advanced offloading is enabled in there. I am not sure it matters if disabled in the registry but it could not hurt (ensure you reboot). I'd also check the slow PC's NIC settings. Have you verified it is not a network switch issue? Any "pattern" to the slowness w.r.t. how the PC's are connected to the server? Not sure what else to suggest. You may want to post to the SBS08 specific group, you need to join first: https://connect.microsoft.com/ Good luck. -- Allan Williams OneginNH wrote: On Wednesday, March 03, 2010 4:04 PM Brad wrote: Was there found a solution to this issue? Was there found a solution to this issue? I am having exactly the same problem, although its more around copying files up the server. It takes 30mins for a 50M file! Its a Gigabit network, all offloading is turned off on the NIC and the registry, servers brand new, and the previous server with Windows 2000 was fine. It doesnt seem to have any issues with Windows 7 clients, and IP6 is turned on (its SBS2008 and so cant turn it off without effecting other things). Any help here would be really appreciated - Im a bit stuck. Brad "Al Williams" wrote: On Friday, June 04, 2010 1:41 PM sspence wrote: i am having Identical problems on my new SBS 2008 server. i am having Identical problems on my new SBS 2008 server. extrememly slow browsing to server shares. plus i also get "the local device is already in use" error... I have done all the same steps listed in this topic. I am desperate for a solution. Did you find one. This is killing productivity of my CAD users... -- sspencer(a)inframap.ne ------------------------------------------------------------------------ sspencer(a)inframap.ne's Profile: http://forums.techarena.in/members/228505.htm View this thread: http://forums.techarena.in/small-business-server/1299892.htm http://forums.techarena.in On Friday, June 04, 2010 3:10 PM Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] wrote: Spencer,You have posted this question to techarena. Spencer, You have posted this question to techarena.in Which attempts to copy posts from Microsoft's Public Newsgroup This Breaks Threads from the source and we can not see what you are referring to. Please post a new question to For SBS related questions we recommend that you start with Public Forum http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/smallbusinessserver/threads Should you want to visit the other Microsoft Public Forums, please go to http://www.microsoft.com/communities/forums/default.mspx As the NNTP newsgroups will be retiring soon. Russ Full Details here! *This is a edited repost of an earlier Microsoft message. (No this is not a joke) - Russ Grover MVP What is Happening? This message is to inform you that Microsoft will soon begin discontinuing newsgroups and transitioning users to Microsoft forums. Why? As you may know, newsgroups have existed for many years now; however, the traffic in the Microsoft newsgroups has been steadily decreasing for the past several years while customers and participants are increasingly finding solutions in the forums on Microsoft properties and third party sites. This move will unify the customer experience, centralize content, make it easier for active contributors to retain their influence, mitigate redundancies and make the content easier to find by customers and search engines through improved indexing. Additionally, forums offer a better user and spam management platform that will improve customer satisfaction by encouraging a healthy discussion in a clean community space. To this end, Microsoft will begin to progressively shift available resources to the forums technology and discontinue support for newsgroups. In addition to offering a compelling online browser experience, for those users who prefer to use an NNTP (newsgroup) reader to participate in the newsgroups community, we have developed a solution called the NNTP Bridge which allows a user to connect a variety of supported NNTP readers to the forums they would like to participate in and continue having the NTTP reader functionality. You can find instructions on how to download and set up the Microsoft NNTP Bridge http://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/ Which Newsgroups Are Affected by this Shutdown? All public newsgroups will eventually be closed between June 1, 2010 and October 1, 2010. Microsoft will be closing newsgroups in a phased approach, starting with the least active newsgroups and moving eventually to more active ones throughout the course of the next six months. Where Should I go with the Closure of this Newsgroup? Microsoft has a large selection of forums, many of which cover either the same or closely related technologies to the ones found in the newsgroups. The forums have seen amazing growth and are an excellent place to continue the discussion. For SBS related questions we recommend that you start with Public Forum http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/smallbusinessserver/threads Should you want to visit the other Microsoft Public Forums, please go to http://www.microsoft.com/communities/forums/default.mspx Who Should I Contact with any Questions? Send any questions about the process, recommended forums and timing to NNTP(a)microsoft.com ------------------------------ Russ Grover -- Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.BPOSMadeEasy.com On Friday, June 04, 2010 11:01 PM Leythos wrote: sspencer(a)inframap.ne says... sspencer(a)inframap.ne says... Since you do not properly quote the thread you are asking about, since this is Usenet and not a web based forum, we can only guess about your issue: 1) What antivirus software are you running on the workstations? 2) What antivirus software are you running on the server 3) Is your DHCP properly setup using the 2008 Wizards? 4) Is your DNS properly setup using the 2008 Wizards? 5) Did you setup the drive shares using the Wizards? Post an IPCONFIG /ALL from the server (do not edit it) Post an IPCONFIG /ALL from a workstation having problems -- You cannot trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little voice inside you that most civilians do not even hear -- Listen to that. Trust yourself. spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address) On Saturday, June 12, 2010 11:48 AM jmurdoch wrote: Put in a low end realtek gigabit nic and the xp machines went from1megabit to Put in a low end realtek gigabit nic and the xp machines went from 1megabit to 300megabit file copies from the sbs2008 server. It appears either Intel or MS have something to answer for. I tried all of the patches to fix the issues and none of them worked. I found that after rebooting the speed on the intel nic may be fast for a little while but eventually slows down (almost as if some service kicks in later that causes the slowness issues). -- jmurdoch ------------------------------------------------------------------------ jmurdoch's Profile: http://forums.techarena.in/members/231527.htm View this thread: http://forums.techarena.in/small-business-server/1299892.htm http://forums.techarena.in Submitted via EggHeadCafe - Software Developer Portal of Choice MongoDb: Install as Service and use .NET Drivers http://www.eggheadcafe.com/tutorials/aspnet/51d3ae19-d6f9-4807-ac0a-0baab2964b03/mongodb-install-as-service-and-use-net-drivers.aspx
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