From: Pat Farrell on
Henrik [6650] wrote:

> I sit here wondering if all this Anti VSS propaganda out there is due to a
> general disliking of Microsoft, or does anybody actually have any bad
> experiences with Visual Sourcesafe? It seems that nobody (it is not only
> in this newsgroup) has anything nice to say about the product, although no
> specifics are listed. Just those "Print your code and set your hair on
> fire" things.

> I have never used anything else but VSS, so I cannot say I have a lot of
> experience, but I am always eager to learn and hear other opinions. So
> please, friends, throw in your horror/success stories.

I've used VSS at several sites, along with PVCS, CVS, subversion, and maybe
others.

VSS is not terrible. But it is very expensive, and back when I used it,
it was highly biased towards using it in one building (or with very high
speed broadband). There are/were extra cost solutions that claimed to make
it work better over long distance and slow speeds.

But CVS and SVN are free, and with Tortiose both have easy to use GUIs for
windows users. And both integrate into the usual free IDEs such as Eclipse
and Netbeans. And we are using it (CVS) with IAR on a current embedded
project.

I prefer free tools so I can spend the money on pizza and beer for the
engineering staff.

I don't think it is important which source code system you use, but you have
to use one. I use them even on my own stuff, which is all by definition
one man projects.



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Pat
From: toby on

Pat Farrell wrote:
> Henrik [6650] wrote:
>
> > I sit here wondering if all this Anti VSS propaganda out there is due to a
> > general disliking of Microsoft, or does anybody actually have any bad
> > experiences with Visual Sourcesafe? It seems that nobody (it is not only
> > in this newsgroup) has anything nice to say about the product, although no
> > specifics are listed. Just those "Print your code and set your hair on
> > fire" things.
>
> > I have never used anything else but VSS, so I cannot say I have a lot of
> > experience, but I am always eager to learn and hear other opinions. So
> > please, friends, throw in your horror/success stories.
>
> I've used VSS at several sites, along with PVCS, CVS, subversion, and maybe
> others.
>
> VSS is not terrible.

It is, if you don't like data loss. The competition doesn't offer data
loss as a feature.

> But it is very expensive, ...
>
> I prefer free tools so I can spend the money on pizza and beer for the
> engineering staff.

I prefer them because they actually work.

>
> I don't think it is important which source code system you use, but you have
> to use one. I use them even on my own stuff, which is all by definition
> one man projects.
>
>
>
> --
> Pat