From: D Yuniskis on
while(1); wrote:
> "D Yuniskis" <not.going.to.be(a)seen.com> wrote in message
> news:hlk3bi$btu$2(a)speranza.aioe.org...
>> Yeah, pricey. As I said, I figure I can get "everything" in
>> a "used" PDA for considerably less. If this was a full prodcuction
>> run, then I could afford to "buy new". :-/
>
> So, what's your question, then? Get that PDA, cannibalize it and you're
> done...

My *question* was whether there were other "inspired"
options to get the functionality that I desire. See
Jon Kirwan's post, this date.
From: Jon Kirwan on
On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 13:48:22 -0700, D Yuniskis
<not.going.to.be(a)seen.com> wrote:

>Hi Jon,
>
>Jon Kirwan wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:29:58 -0700, D Yuniskis
>> <not.going.to.be(a)seen.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am looking for 10 - 20 small-ish color LCD touch panels
>>> for a "one off" project. In these small quantities, I suspect
>>> I may be better off purchasing a bunch of "appropriate" PDA's
>>> on eBay and cannabilizing them for parts (?). That could
>>> also be a win as the MCU therein already has support for
>>> driving the panel (so, I could just "talk to" the MCU instead).
>>>
>>> Suggestions? Alternatives? Panels must be backlit and
>>> work with "finger" touch (not require a stylus).
>>
>> The first thing that came to mind was a replacement screen
>> for the touch-half of a Nintendo DS from DealExtreme.
>> Something like these two pieces?
>>
>> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.26582
>> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.3245
>
>Excellent! Yes. I assume the two are assembled together
>(sandwich) in the Nintendo? I.e., I would have to mechanically
>mount them atop each other.

Yes, that's how it's done. And it is backlit. If you don't
have a DS Lite, buy one. Play with it, see how it "feels" to
you. Examine the backlighting, the touch, etc. You can even
_develop_ code for it, as there are groups who have put
together a fairly nice toolset to do all that with some
readily available "cartridges" you can plug into it. You get
two ARM processors in there, plus some memory, and so on, as
well as two displays, one that is touchable, buttons, and an
RF link that is compatible with most routers.

DealExtreme offers some small screwdrivers to dismantle the
DS Lite, as well (couple of dollars.) So you can pretty much
go exploring.

>> That may still leave too much yet to be done.
>
>I will look into the DS and see what it's capabilities are
>as well as what the likely interface would entail.
>
>Thanks!

Let me know how it looks. I'm very interested in either the
positives or negatives you uncover. I'd appreciate the
update, very much.

Jon
From: Frank-Christian Krügel on
Am 17.02.2010 23:29, schrieb D Yuniskis:
> Hi,
>
> I am looking for 10 - 20 small-ish color LCD touch panels
> for a "one off" project. In these small quantities, I suspect
> I may be better off purchasing a bunch of "appropriate" PDA's
> on eBay and cannabilizing them for parts (?). That could
> also be a win as the MCU therein already has support for
> driving the panel (so, I could just "talk to" the MCU instead).
>
> Suggestions? Alternatives? Panels must be backlit and
> work with "finger" touch (not require a stylus).

Look for displays with ILITEK ILI9320, ILI9325, ILI9328 controller chip.
These displays are very easy to handle, have typically 240x320 pixel and
256k colors and sizes of 2.4" up to 2.8". Some also have resistive touch.

Googling ILI9328 spills out some sources. Maybe there is a dealer who is
willing to send out a dozen units as paid samples.

Mouser has this one:
763-2.4240320SFCTXIT
17 pieces left.

--
Mit freundlichen Gr��en

Frank-Christian Kr�gel

From: D Yuniskis on
Hi Jon,

Jon Kirwan wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 13:48:22 -0700, D Yuniskis
>
>> Jon Kirwan wrote:
>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:29:58 -0700, D Yuniskis
>>>
>>>> I am looking for 10 - 20 small-ish color LCD touch panels
>>>> for a "one off" project. In these small quantities, I suspect
>>>> I may be better off purchasing a bunch of "appropriate" PDA's
>>>> on eBay and cannabilizing them for parts (?). That could
>>>> also be a win as the MCU therein already has support for
>>>> driving the panel (so, I could just "talk to" the MCU instead).
>>>>
>>>> Suggestions? Alternatives? Panels must be backlit and
>>>> work with "finger" touch (not require a stylus).
>>> The first thing that came to mind was a replacement screen
>>> for the touch-half of a Nintendo DS from DealExtreme.
>>> Something like these two pieces?
>>>
>>> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.26582
>>> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.3245
>> Excellent! Yes. I assume the two are assembled together
>> (sandwich) in the Nintendo? I.e., I would have to mechanically
>> mount them atop each other.
>
> Yes, that's how it's done. And it is backlit. If you don't
> have a DS Lite, buy one. Play with it, see how it "feels" to
> you. Examine the backlighting, the touch, etc. You can even
> _develop_ code for it, as there are groups who have put
> together a fairly nice toolset to do all that with some
> readily available "cartridges" you can plug into it. You get
> two ARM processors in there, plus some memory, and so on, as
> well as two displays, one that is touchable, buttons, and an
> RF link that is compatible with most routers.
>
> DealExtreme offers some small screwdrivers to dismantle the
> DS Lite, as well (couple of dollars.) So you can pretty much
> go exploring.
>
>>> That may still leave too much yet to be done.
>> I will look into the DS and see what it's capabilities are
>> as well as what the likely interface would entail.
>
> Let me know how it looks. I'm very interested in either the
> positives or negatives you uncover. I'd appreciate the
> update, very much.

<frown> The NDS seems a bit pricey for what I want to do.
Shelling out ~$2K for essentially 20 "screens" is way
overkill. :< I.e., I'd still have hardware and software
tasks in addition to fighting with a platform that
wasn't *designed* to support "open" development (it
appears nintendo has actively tried to thwart folks
repurposing their device)

But, the screen+touchpanel may be a viable option. I have
to research that some more -- the DX offering seems to
be unclear on whether the cited LCD is, in fact, the LOWER
display and not the UPPER. Even their "clarification"
of the issue seems ambiguous :-/

I've also found a few surplus vendors from whom I might be able
to order a small lot (25-50 units). That option, however,
leaves me too much fexibility (!) in terms of picking a size,
etc. :-/
From: JosephKK on
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:54:53 -0700, D Yuniskis <not.going.to.be(a)seen.com> wrote:

>Hi Jon,
>
>Jon Kirwan wrote:
>> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 13:48:22 -0700, D Yuniskis
>>
>>> Jon Kirwan wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:29:58 -0700, D Yuniskis
>>>>
>>>>> I am looking for 10 - 20 small-ish color LCD touch panels
>>>>> for a "one off" project. In these small quantities, I suspect
>>>>> I may be better off purchasing a bunch of "appropriate" PDA's
>>>>> on eBay and cannabilizing them for parts (?). That could
>>>>> also be a win as the MCU therein already has support for
>>>>> driving the panel (so, I could just "talk to" the MCU instead).
>>>>>
>>>>> Suggestions? Alternatives? Panels must be backlit and
>>>>> work with "finger" touch (not require a stylus).
>>>> The first thing that came to mind was a replacement screen
>>>> for the touch-half of a Nintendo DS from DealExtreme.
>>>> Something like these two pieces?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.26582
>>>> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.3245
>>> Excellent! Yes. I assume the two are assembled together
>>> (sandwich) in the Nintendo? I.e., I would have to mechanically
>>> mount them atop each other.
>>
>> Yes, that's how it's done. And it is backlit. If you don't
>> have a DS Lite, buy one. Play with it, see how it "feels" to
>> you. Examine the backlighting, the touch, etc. You can even
>> _develop_ code for it, as there are groups who have put
>> together a fairly nice toolset to do all that with some
>> readily available "cartridges" you can plug into it. You get
>> two ARM processors in there, plus some memory, and so on, as
>> well as two displays, one that is touchable, buttons, and an
>> RF link that is compatible with most routers.
>>
>> DealExtreme offers some small screwdrivers to dismantle the
>> DS Lite, as well (couple of dollars.) So you can pretty much
>> go exploring.
>>
>>>> That may still leave too much yet to be done.
>>> I will look into the DS and see what it's capabilities are
>>> as well as what the likely interface would entail.
>>
>> Let me know how it looks. I'm very interested in either the
>> positives or negatives you uncover. I'd appreciate the
>> update, very much.
>
><frown> The NDS seems a bit pricey for what I want to do.
>Shelling out ~$2K for essentially 20 "screens" is way
>overkill. :< I.e., I'd still have hardware and software
>tasks in addition to fighting with a platform that
>wasn't *designed* to support "open" development (it
>appears nintendo has actively tried to thwart folks
>repurposing their device)
>
>But, the screen+touchpanel may be a viable option. I have
>to research that some more -- the DX offering seems to
>be unclear on whether the cited LCD is, in fact, the LOWER
>display and not the UPPER. Even their "clarification"
>of the issue seems ambiguous :-/
>
>I've also found a few surplus vendors from whom I might be able
>to order a small lot (25-50 units). That option, however,
>leaves me too much fexibility (!) in terms of picking a size,
>etc. :-/

Dina 'nyone tell ya? Choice is wealth. And wealth is one of
the magnificent old men of the sea.