From: Petrus Tax on 4 Mar 2010 16:17 Hello, I got an older Soyo mobo (SY-7IWM/L) which I installed in an old computer whose mobo had broken down. It works fine in Win 2000, except that after the "shut off" command the computer doesn't power down (as it should), but boots up again. I think that everything is set correctly in "Power Management" and in the Award BIOS, so that I don't understand that the computer doesn't do what it should do. Any help would be much appreciated. Petrus (This would otherwise still be a nice computer for a beginner or student, mostly interested in word processing; I would hate to discard it.)
From: Jan Alter on 4 Mar 2010 17:58 -- "Petrus Tax" <petrustax(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message news:QOadnY-4uaLqvg3WnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com... > Hello, > > I got an older Soyo mobo (SY-7IWM/L) which I installed in an old computer > whose mobo had broken down. It works fine in Win 2000, except that after > the "shut off" command the computer doesn't power down (as it should), but > boots up again. I think that everything is set correctly in "Power > Management" and in the Award BIOS, so that I don't understand that the > computer doesn't do what it should do. > > Any help would be much appreciated. > > Petrus > > (This would otherwise still be a nice computer for a beginner or student, > mostly interested in word processing; I would hate to discard it.) > I've had this exact scenerio happen to me years ago. This happened on a mb about ten years ago. A setting needed to be changed in the bios to not wake the network card. I cannot remember the terminology. AWOL, or not to wake the lan, something like that. Once I changed that setting the computer shut down and did not attempt to reboot. Jan Alter bearpuf(a)verizon.net
From: Petrus Tax on 4 Mar 2010 20:06 Thank you so much, Jan, for your quick response! And you were right on! The "Power On by Ring" item on the first Award BIOS screen was set to "enabled". The change to "disabled" did the trick. Great memory for a retired person also. (I have been retired myself since 1993, and remember you mentioning on "printers" your retirement from a school system a couple of years ago.:)) The (or a) previous owner of the board must have done the BIOS reset, but how can a later owner know or even guess such a little change for the better?! Gratefully, Petrus "Jan Alter" <bearpuf(a)verizon.net> wrote in message news:hmpduq$dod$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > > -- > "Petrus Tax" <petrustax(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:QOadnY-4uaLqvg3WnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com... >> Hello, >> >> I got an older Soyo mobo (SY-7IWM/L) which I installed in an old computer >> whose mobo had broken down. It works fine in Win 2000, except that after >> the "shut off" command the computer doesn't power down (as it should), >> but boots up again. I think that everything is set correctly in "Power >> Management" and in the Award BIOS, so that I don't understand that the >> computer doesn't do what it should do. >> >> Any help would be much appreciated. >> >> Petrus >> >> (This would otherwise still be a nice computer for a beginner or student, >> mostly interested in word processing; I would hate to discard it.) >> > > I've had this exact scenerio happen to me years ago. This happened on a > mb about ten years ago. A setting needed to be changed in the bios to not > wake the network card. I cannot remember the terminology. AWOL, or not to > wake the lan, something like that. Once I changed that setting the > computer shut down and did not attempt to reboot. > > > Jan Alter > bearpuf(a)verizon.net > >
From: Paul on 4 Mar 2010 20:06 Jan Alter wrote: > > "Petrus Tax" <petrustax(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message news:QOadnY-4uaLqvg3WnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com... > > Hello, > > > > I got an older Soyo mobo (SY-7IWM/L) which I installed in an old computer > > whose mobo had broken down. It works fine in Win 2000, except that after > > the "shut off" command the computer doesn't power down (as it should), but > > boots up again. I think that everything is set correctly in "Power > > Management" and in the Award BIOS, so that I don't understand that the > > computer doesn't do what it should do. > > > > Any help would be much appreciated. > > > > Petrus > > > > (This would otherwise still be a nice computer for a beginner or student, > > mostly interested in word processing; I would hate to discard it.) > > > > I've had this exact scenerio happen to me years ago. This happened on a mb > about ten years ago. A setting needed to be changed in the bios to not wake > the network card. I cannot remember the terminology. AWOL, or not to wake > the lan, something like that. Once I changed that setting the computer shut > down and did not attempt to reboot. > > > Jan Alter > bearpuf(a)verizon.net In Windows, if you use Device Manager, and look at the properties of the LAN interface, there are some properties there that affect waking. The "Power Management" tab for the network interface, has a tick box - "Allow this device to bring the computer out of standby" If that is disabled, then the LAN chip should not be able to wake the computer. Under the "Advanced" tab, I have an item in the "Property" list labeled "Wake Up Capabilities". One of the options there is "Link Change", and selecting Link Change could cause the computer to wake up immediately after you end a Windows session. Another way to exert control, is at the BIOS level. If you want to try to prevent any PCI device from waking the computer, look in the BIOS. In the manual here, "3-1 SOYO COMBO SETUP" on PDF page 53, I can see an option to try. http://web.archive.org/web/20041217015341/http://www.soyousa.com/dl/manuals/686/m7iwmlv1012.PDF "Wake-Up by PCI card" [Disabled] That controls the response to the PME signal on each PCI slot. PME stands for Power Management Event, and if the LAN chip is set to Wake On LAN via usage of a Magic Packet, the LAN chip asserts PME on the PCI slot pins. And that wakes the computer. If the BIOS setting is set to [Disabled], then the LAN card should no longer be able to wake the computer. Some computers also have a setting in the BIOS, which is intended to start the computer after a power failure. I don't know if that would cause the symptoms or not. That setting might be in the same BIOS page as the "Wake-Up" one. Paul
From: Petrus Tax on 4 Mar 2010 20:30 Thank you, Paul, for your, as always, detailed and informative response! It was sent at the same time as my thanks to Jan Alter, whose advice on the BIOS was right on and enabled me to repair the defect. But I learned from you that there were more possibilities of repair. I will save your suggestions also as a methodology of multiple approaches. Thanks again. Petrus "Paul" <nospam(a)needed.com> wrote in message news:hmplfg$9r7$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > Jan Alter wrote: > > > > "Petrus Tax" <petrustax(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message > > > news:QOadnY-4uaLqvg3WnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com... > > > Hello, > > > > > > I got an older Soyo mobo (SY-7IWM/L) which I installed in an old > > > computer > > > whose mobo had broken down. It works fine in Win 2000, except that > > > after > > > the "shut off" command the computer doesn't power down (as it should), > > > but > > > boots up again. I think that everything is set correctly in "Power > > > Management" and in the Award BIOS, so that I don't understand that the > > > computer doesn't do what it should do. > > > > > > Any help would be much appreciated. > > > > > > Petrus > > > > > > (This would otherwise still be a nice computer for a beginner or > > > student, > > > mostly interested in word processing; I would hate to discard it.) > > > > > > > I've had this exact scenerio happen to me years ago. This happened on a > > mb > > about ten years ago. A setting needed to be changed in the bios to not > > wake > > the network card. I cannot remember the terminology. AWOL, or not to > > wake > > the lan, something like that. Once I changed that setting the computer > > shut > > down and did not attempt to reboot. > > > > > > Jan Alter > > bearpuf(a)verizon.net > > In Windows, if you use Device Manager, and look at the properties of the > LAN > interface, there are some properties there that affect waking. > > The "Power Management" tab for the network interface, has a tick box - > > "Allow this device to bring the computer out of standby" > > If that is disabled, then the LAN chip should not be able to wake > the computer. > > Under the "Advanced" tab, I have an item in the "Property" list labeled > "Wake Up Capabilities". One of the options there is "Link Change", and > selecting Link Change could cause the computer to wake up immediately > after you end a Windows session. > > Another way to exert control, is at the BIOS level. If you want to try > to prevent any PCI device from waking the computer, look in the BIOS. > In the manual here, "3-1 SOYO COMBO SETUP" on PDF page 53, I can > see an option to try. > > http://web.archive.org/web/20041217015341/http://www.soyousa.com/dl/manuals/686/m7iwmlv1012.PDF > > "Wake-Up by PCI card" [Disabled] > > That controls the response to the PME signal on each PCI slot. PME > stands for Power Management Event, and if the LAN chip is set to > Wake On LAN via usage of a Magic Packet, the LAN chip asserts PME > on the PCI slot pins. And that wakes the computer. If the BIOS > setting is set to [Disabled], then the LAN card should no longer > be able to wake the computer. > > Some computers also have a setting in the BIOS, which is intended to > start the computer after a power failure. I don't know if > that would cause the symptoms or not. That setting might be > in the same BIOS page as the "Wake-Up" one. > > Paul
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