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From: Hikaru Yamoshi on 8 Aug 2010 15:08
On Aug 8, 3:30 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On 8/8/10 7:50 AM, bert wrote:
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>
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> > On Aug 7, 1:42 pm, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 8/7/10 12:31 PM, bert wrote:
>
> >>> On Aug 7, 8:09 am, "Autymn D. C."<lysde...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >>>> Hikaru, learn how to conjug verbs.
>
> >>> Events that take place in the universe need room. Space gives stuff
> >>> room. It all fits TreBert
>
> >> Why do the need room... seems it would be more efficient to to have
> >> so much sprawl.
>
> > Sam Reality is more space is needed in the micro realm. Just think
> > of Planck time the first part of the second of the big bang when the
> > temperature was 10 trillion trillion times hotter than the sun's core.
> > Here you can see it needed much space to expand into and cool It had
> > to cool or I would not be here typing this post. Cooling needs
> > space,and time TreBert
>
> Herb, a common mistake -- the universe did not expand INTO space.
> Space expanded!
>
> Had inflation not occurred or something to drive expansion, the early
> universe might have efficiently become a single black hole.

i disagree, you do a common mistake!

what is space expanding into, i hope you
know what "expand" stands for
From: Raymond Yohros on 8 Aug 2010 15:29
On Aug 8, 2:08 pm, Hikaru Yamoshi <yosh...(a)dcemail.com> wrote:
> On Aug 8, 3:30 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 8/8/10 7:50 AM, bert wrote:
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> > > On Aug 7, 1:42 pm, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com>  wrote:
> > >> On 8/7/10 12:31 PM, bert wrote:
>
> > >>> On Aug 7, 8:09 am, "Autymn D. C."<lysde...(a)sbcglobal.net>    wrote:
> > >>>> Hikaru, learn how to conjug verbs.
>
> > >>> Events that take place in the universe need room. Space gives stuff
> > >>> room. It all fits  TreBert
>
> > >>     Why do the need room... seems it would be more efficient to to have
> > >>     so much sprawl.
>
> > > Sam Reality is more space is needed in the micro realm.    Just think
> > > of Planck time the first part of the second of the big bang when the
> > > temperature was 10 trillion trillion times hotter than the sun's core..
> > > Here you can see it needed much space to expand into and cool It had
> > > to cool or I would not be here typing this post. Cooling needs
> > > space,and time   TreBert
>
> >    Herb, a common mistake -- the universe did not expand INTO space..
> >    Space expanded!
>
> >    Had inflation not occurred or something to drive expansion, the early
> >    universe might have efficiently become a single black hole.
>
> i disagree, you do a common mistake!
>
> what is space expanding into, i hope you
> know what "expand" stands for
>

the most naive thoath is that matenergy expanded in a spacetime
that was already there. this is a mistake because matenergy
expanded together with spacetime. like the
analogy of the dots on the balloon.

r.y

From: guskz on 8 Aug 2010 18:05
On Aug 8, 8:50 am, bert <herbertglazie...(a)msn.com> wrote:
> On Aug 7, 1:42 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 8/7/10 12:31 PM, bert wrote:
>
> > > On Aug 7, 8:09 am, "Autymn D. C."<lysde...(a)sbcglobal.net>  wrote:
> > >> Hikaru, learn how to conjug verbs.
>
> > > Events that take place in the universe need room. Space gives stuff
> > > room. It all fits  TreBert
>
> >    Why do the need room... seems it would be more efficient to to have
> >    so much sprawl.
>
> Sam Reality is more space is needed in the micro realm.    Just think
> of Planck time the first part of the second of the big bang when the
> temperature was 10 trillion trillion times hotter than the sun's core.
> Here you can see it needed much space to expand into and cool It had
> to cool or I would not be here typing this post. Cooling needs
> space,and time   TreBert

We know the visual sense can be fooled (one electron (= singularity)
through a TV's CRT, which can simulate to display an entire image, yet
it is but one DOT, one Pixel (singularity) being displaced in time.
Hence one pixel can simulate an entire SPACE.

As for the touch sense, there's the impairment of heat and force
(pressure), as well as their capability to destroy what is perceived
through the visual sense.

Tensors call it and spacetime, the Thermal manifold which actually
"the tensor equations" say "shapes" spacetime (or at least during the
quantum soup era). Yet here lies an enigma both heat and gravity(force/
pressure) shape space. Gas volume equations demonstrate that these two
latter can directly be entwined....

As for Planck, another enigma, since tensors and notably those in
Newtonian equations are founded on derivatives and anti-derivatives.

Considering that Volume (4th dimensional tensor) is an anti-derivative
of Area (3rd dimensional tensor) demonstrates that their TINIEST unit
is infinitely small (no measure).

Thus the enigma is the Planck unit does not adhere to the above
principal. And it being a Time unit as well (Planck wavelength), thus
the smallest unit of time (meaning the smallest tangeable proper
time).

To postulate once again, space is but a simulation (perhaps time, for
in the Bible it is said: to God one day (or second) is a thousand
years, and a thousand years are one day.

Therefore everything in essence, to this day, still resides at the
singularity, which explains how God can be everywhere simultaneously
and omnipotent.

Like a heart beat that pulses on and off, the mind (intelligence and
conception) pulses on and off. Yet during that off period, mind in a
COMA period, the robot in each individual CANNOT truly measure how
much time has elapsed, meaning how long this robot's mind (capability
to conceive) has been shut off... a split second or a trillion years.
Likewise the time span (and period) to conceive an image (space) can
also be fooled as demonstrated through the single (singularity)
electron in a TV's CRT.
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