From: bz on
H@..(Henri Wilson) wrote in
news:t0eub1hpcakkobuqmr4es4skmjtjlt2957(a)4ax.com:

> On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:23:07 +0000 (UTC), bz
> <bz+sp(a)ch100-5.chem.lsu.edu> wrote:
>
>>H@..(Henri Wilson) wrote in
>>news:sv6tb1p8jmhh8n2lmi2eb044igt0s1kqki(a)4ax.com:
>>
>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Delta Cep is one of the few easily-visible variables, its magnitude
>>>>> changing from 3.5 to 4.3 and back over an amazingly regular period
>>>>> of 5 days 8 hours 47 minutes and 32 seconds, the star acting like a
>>>>> natural clock. "
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The data would seem to indicate that the author of the phrase quoted
>>>>might have waxed a bit too much about the regularity of the waining of
>>>>Delta Cep.
>>>
>>> He wouldn't say it acted like a clock if it wasn't pretty stable.
>>> You can look at any long term pixel curve on the britastro site and
>>> see that most star curves appear dead constant over many years.
>>
>>The degree of regularity seems to have been over emphasized.
>>Dead constant over many years seems to mean that when the data is
>>collected and averaged over many years the fit is not TOO bad.
>>However the degree of fit should have been reported.
>
> Here is another reference:
> http://weblore.com/richard/ru_cam_ex_cepheid_star.htm
>
> "Cepheids are known for their precise variability which can be measured
> to a fraction of a second."

'can be measured to a fraction of a second' does not necessarily mean 'is
constant to a fraction of a second'.

There is no question that some cepheids are 'regular' for some period of
time. There is also no question that most, if not all cepheids show some
variations.

There is a question as to whether some people seem to have exaggerated the
regularity of cepheids.

He specializes in positional astronomy.
http://weblore.com/richard/

>
> You cannot run away from the truth forever, Bob.

I am searching for truth, Henri.

>>> I have another theory about cepheids anyway.
>>> I still reckon they are largish hot stars orbitted (e=~0.25) by a WCH
>>> or neutron star.
>>> They experience very large tidal distortions, giving them an
>>> ellipsoidal shape. That causes their effective area facing us to vary
>>> in synch with the orbit period. Consequently, the majority of the
>>> brightness variation might not be due to the BaT after all.
>>
>>Each theory has its consequences.
>>
>>Double stars such as you describe are known to exist but they exhibit
>>characteristics quite different from cepheids.
>
> I am pretty certain the above type of star in elliptical orbit and in
> tidal lock would exhibit a cepheid like brightness variation.

Cepheids show some distinctive characteristics, such as rapid cyclic shifts
in stellar type.

--
bz

please pardon my infinite ignorance, the set-of-things-I-do-not-know is an
infinite set.

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From: Arthur Dent on
Egads, YBM, you STILL can't spell "prove" after all this time.
Have a nice day.

From: YBM on
Henri Wilson wrote :
> Cepheids are largish stars that have a WCH (Wilson, cool, heavy) or neutron

Wilson, you are not cool, but you are quite heavy.

From: Arthur Dent on


Henri Wilson wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 14:46:40 +0000 (UTC), bz <bz+sp(a)ch100-5.chem.lsu.edu>
> wrote:
>
> >H@..(Henri Wilson) wrote in
> >news:tl8tb152v0gn26qdip73peho1jk5gphsti(a)4ax.com:
> >
> >> No it isn't. The beam AS A WHOLE remains vertical. Draw the bloody thing
> >> if you don't believe me.


H, calm down.
bz is accepting the vector addition of velocities.
AD.

From: YBM on
Arthur Dent a ýcrit :
> Egads, YBM, you STILL can't spell "prove" after all this time.

You haven't still got the point between closing velocity and
relative velocity, have you ?