From: Ste on
On 30 Dec, 23:54, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
> "Ste" <ste_ro...(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:d5f88bd1-1462-43bc-87d5-4fe81af4ae37(a)34g2000yqp.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Again, any sensible person can see the legitimacy of this
> > interpretation. The fact that you sling insults again just proves that
> > you're a stubborn fool.
>
> No .. it shows that I was dealing with one

That description would be half-right.
From: Tim Golden BandTech.com on
On Dec 28 2009, 1:10 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
> "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
>
> news:7c5de113-b2fb-4654-85e0-7d921368b3c8(a)a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Dec 24, 3:51 pm, Ste <ste_ro...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> I was just wondering, can anyone tell me at what rate time advances on
> >> earth?

How about one second per second?
When you speak of a rate you must provide a ratio, yes?
I believe these units are adequate.
The independent variable...
Is independence a misnomer?
If everything is connected then yes, it is a misnomer.
Still, it has been an effective tool so long as you can set up the
experiment.
Down at some level this ability to set up conditions fails.
Independence fails, and repeatability falters.

At some points in time even a Galilean experiment such as rolling a
ball down an incline will fail, such as during an earthquake. These
inabilities to control the experiment cannot be denied. What are the
full consequences of this? I'm not really sure, perhaps there are
some... LHC vooh-dooh anyone????

- Tim

>
> > Know thy enemy.
>
> What enemy?

I'm pretty sure I am my worst enemy.

>
> > =====================================================\
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorentz_ether_theory#Later_activity_and_...
>
> > ======================================================/
>
> Do you think LET is an enemy? And how is that link relevant .. silly
> question, of course its not.
>
> Now Sue copy and pastest the same old collection of quotes as always in the
> hope they are relevant to the thread and to make herself look knowledgeable
>
> [snip em]

From: Inertial on

"Tim Golden BandTech.com" <tttpppggg(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eeb80815-f182-4d98-88fc-8c4dce783915(a)22g2000yqr.googlegroups.com...
> On Dec 28 2009, 1:10 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
>> "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
>>
>> news:7c5de113-b2fb-4654-85e0-7d921368b3c8(a)a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > On Dec 24, 3:51 pm, Ste <ste_ro...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> I was just wondering, can anyone tell me at what rate time advances on
>> >> earth?
>
> How about one second per second?

That's a tautology that says nothing

> When you speak of a rate you must provide a ratio, yes?
> I believe these units are adequate.

Nope .. they say nothing

> The independent variable...
> Is independence a misnomer?
> If everything is connected then yes, it is a misnomer.
> Still, it has been an effective tool so long as you can set up the
> experiment.

What experiment?

> Down at some level this ability to set up conditions fails.
> Independence fails, and repeatability falters.
>
> At some points in time even a Galilean experiment such as rolling a
> ball down an incline will fail, such as during an earthquake. These
> inabilities to control the experiment cannot be denied. What are the
> full consequences of this? I'm not really sure, perhaps there are
> some... LHC vooh-dooh anyone????

That's why experiments are always under controlled conditions, and a full
error analysis is done.


From: Tim Golden BandTech.com on
On Jan 1, 5:54 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
> "Tim Golden BandTech.com" <tttppp...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:eeb80815-f182-4d98-88fc-8c4dce783915(a)22g2000yqr.googlegroups.com...
>
> > On Dec 28 2009, 1:10 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
> >> "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
>
> >>news:7c5de113-b2fb-4654-85e0-7d921368b3c8(a)a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>
> >> > On Dec 24, 3:51 pm, Ste <ste_ro...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> I was just wondering, can anyone tell me at what rate time advances on
> >> >> earth?
>
> > How about one second per second?
>
> That's a tautology that says nothing
>
> > When you speak of a rate you must provide a ratio, yes?
> > I believe these units are adequate.
>
> Nope .. they say nothing
>

Well, then, don't you have to declare the question invalid?

- Tim
> > The independent variable...
> > Is independence a misnomer?
> > If everything is connected then yes, it is a misnomer.
> > Still, it has been an effective tool so long as you can set up the
> > experiment.
>
> What experiment?
>
> > Down at some level this ability to set up conditions fails.
> > Independence fails, and repeatability falters.
>
> > At some points in time even a Galilean experiment such as rolling a
> > ball down an incline will fail, such as during an earthquake. These
> > inabilities to control the experiment cannot be denied. What are the
> > full consequences of this? I'm not really sure, perhaps there are
> > some... LHC vooh-dooh anyone????
>
> That's why experiments are always under controlled conditions, and a full
> error analysis is done.

From: Inertial on

"Tim Golden BandTech.com" <tttpppggg(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:964ee5d2-b7ef-4cac-81d7-373366981422(a)k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 1, 5:54 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
>> "Tim Golden BandTech.com" <tttppp...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in
>> messagenews:eeb80815-f182-4d98-88fc-8c4dce783915(a)22g2000yqr.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > On Dec 28 2009, 1:10 am, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
>> >> "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
>>
>> >>news:7c5de113-b2fb-4654-85e0-7d921368b3c8(a)a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> >> > On Dec 24, 3:51 pm, Ste <ste_ro...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> I was just wondering, can anyone tell me at what rate time advances
>> >> >> on
>> >> >> earth?
>>
>> > How about one second per second?
>>
>> That's a tautology that says nothing
>>
>> > When you speak of a rate you must provide a ratio, yes?
>> > I believe these units are adequate.
>>
>> Nope .. they say nothing
>>
>
> Well, then, don't you have to declare the question invalid?

I already had earlier