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From: Phil Tomson on 8 Feb 2005 07:31 In article <87a13e22050208040272c65a2a(a)mail.gmail.com>, Robert Feldt <robert.feldt(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > On the squeak issue: Depends on what you mean with squeak, there are >> > very many aspects to it. Related to the VM issues I've resurrected my >> > old writing from my last employer (Thanks Ryan!) and have a few >> > squeak-related rubyvm material up on this page >> >> maybe you'd be interested in: >> www.lypanov.net/rubydium7.pdf >> >I am, but the little time I have for ruby vm/interpreters has gone >into compilers lately... ;) Of course, this begs the question: So how is your Ruby compiler work going? Phil
From: Robert Feldt on 8 Feb 2005 08:03 > >I am, but the little time I have for ruby vm/interpreters has gone > >into compilers lately... ;) > > Of course, this begs the question: > So how is your Ruby compiler work going? > Still work left to do... 8-) /R
From: Robert Feldt on 8 Feb 2005 08:07 > > I'm especially interested in your use of pyggy though. Does this mean > > you have a GLR grammar for Ruby lying around? I would like to try that > > with rockit so if it is available / open-sourced please pass on; that > > could save time. I have the starts of GLR grammars for Ruby but > > nothing complete. Maybe we can join forces? > > its also just a beginning. just fiddling around with > parsing of heredocs, #{}, %w{}, etc. really a very tiny > syntax but it was fun. what sort of parser does rockit > have? you have a working 1.8.x release now i guess ;) > will that be released anytime? > Yes, it is also GLR with embedded regexps. It works with 1.8 and a release is long overdue. I really want to get a full Ruby grammar in there... > i seem to recall that > you went part c part ruby, which means its out for > use with rubydium unfortunately. as soon as i'm finished > with the current rubydium optimisations i'll do some more > work on the glr ruby grammar. > Ok, we could exchange grammar sketches then; pls keep contact when you move on that front. > >> btw, i tried contacting you a while back wrt ruth > >> and was wondering if the spam filters caught the > >> email? summary - would you like patches? > >> > > Sure, although I tend to think that ParseTree would be a more > > maintained/modern alternative? > > ruth does everything i've needed up to now :) > just a few minor patches to the ast and some random > stuff like multiassigns aren't supported, but i've > got plenty more to implement in rubydium before that :) > Ok, please pass them along. > was going to switch to a pyggy based parsetree > whenever i find the time, but that'll be several > months ago at a guess. > I'm not sure I understand "pyggy-based parsetree" but it sounds fun... ;) /R
From: Alexander Kellett on 8 Feb 2005 09:09 On Feb 8, 2005, at 2:07 PM, Robert Feldt wrote: > Ok, we could exchange grammar sketches then; pls keep contact when you > move on that front. shall do so :) > Ok, please pass them along. new tarball - http://www.lypanov.net/ruth.tgz i'll do a patch sometime :) > I'm not sure I understand "pyggy-based parsetree" but it sounds fun... > ;) like ruby2c's sexp style parsetree subproject. but then generated by pyggy. Alex
From: Caio Tiago Oliveira on 8 Feb 2005 10:50
Alexander Kellett, 8/2/2005 06:03: > On Feb 8, 2005, at 4:59 AM, Caio Tiago Oliveira wrote: > >> Logan Capaldo, 8/2/2005 00:45: >> >>> Lately I've been playing around with Squeak (http://www.squeak.org/), >>> and I was wondering wouldn't be cool if ruby could have a similiar >>> environment. Would anyone else be interested in something like this? >> >> >> Yes. But Ruby is yet a lot imature for this. >> At least we can try to make something like the worksspace (that's cool). > > > immature? in what sense? > thats troll talk. you should take the time to rephrase :) IRB, which is the thing more likely to squeak workspace doesn't work very well on windows. The IDEs for Ruby I tried are almost only shortcuts for run the program and syntax colouring. There is a lack of great features. The Refactoring of Freeride is still in development (almost anything worked for me) and I couldn't find it in my version of ArachnoRuby. Yes, Ruby is very slow. Cools projects like yarv and ruby2c yet are in development. Ruby is cool and I will love when the AspectOrientedRuby proposal becomes part of the language. But it has a lack of good suport. |