From: Javier Barroso on
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Avi Greenbury
<avismailinglistaccount(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
> Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote:
>
>> 11/27/2009 12:24 PM, Brent Clark:
>> > Does anyone know if Squeeze is going be Frozen in December or know
>> > of anything for that matter.
>>
>> Are you a newcomer? :-)
>> A Debian release is ready when it's ready. Not before.
>>
>
> Not according to the last debconf:
> http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090729
There are different things :)

Debian will release when it's ready ... this new only tell about freezing ...

freezing != releasing

Regards

Debian Rocks!


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From: Ken Heard on
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Brent Clark wrote:

> Does anyone know if Squeeze is going be Frozen in December or know of
> anything for that matter.

No announcement of a freeze yet, but read the following:

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The Debian Project http://www.debian.org/
Debian adopts time-based release freezes press(a)debian.org
July 29th, 2009 http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090729
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Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

The Debian project has decided to adopt a new policy of time-based
development freezes for future releases, on a two-year cycle. Freezes
will from now on happen in the December of every odd year, which means
that releases will from now on happen sometime in the first half of every
even year. To that effect the next freeze will happen in December 2009,
with a release expected in spring 2010. The project chose December as a
suitable freeze date since spring releases proved successful for the
releases of Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 (codenamed "Etch") and Debian GNU/Linux
5.0 ("Lenny").

Time-based freezes will allow the Debian Project to blend the
predictability of time based releases with its well established policy of
feature based releases. The new freeze policy will provide better
predictability of releases for users of the Debian distribution, and also
allow Debian developers to do better long-term planning. A two-year
release cycle will give more time for disruptive changes, reducing
inconveniences caused for users. Having predictable freezes should also
reduce overall freeze time.

Since Debian's last release happened on Feb. 14th 2009, there will only
be approximately a one year period until its next release, Debian
GNU/Linux 6.0 (codenamed "Squeeze"). This will be a one-time exception
to the two-year policy in order to get into the new time schedule. To
accommodate the needs of larger organizations and other users with a long
upgrade process, the Debian project commits to provide the possibility to
skip the upcoming release and do a skip-upgrade straight from Debian
GNU/Linux 5.0 ("Lenny") to Debian GNU/Linux 7.0 (not yet codenamed).

Although the next freeze is only a short time away, the Debian project
hopes to achieve several prominent goals with it. The most important are
multi-arch support, which will improve the installation of 32 bit
packages on 64 bit machines, and an optimized boot process for better
boot performance and reliability.

The new freeze policy was proposed and agreed during the Debian Project's
yearly conference, DebConf, which is currently taking place in Caceres,
Spain. The idea was well received among the attending project members.
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From: Paul Johnson on
Ken Heard wrote:

> Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes

I'll believe it when I see it: It sounds like a bad idea and requires a
fundamental change to how Debian does business. Snowballs have a better
chance of remaining frozen in hell than Debian does sticking to
time-based releases (as opposed to the current quality-based releases).



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From: Paul Johnson on
Brent Clark wrote:

> Hiya
>
> So November is coming to an end, and we have seen the release of Ubuntu
> Karmic, Fedora 12, Mandriva etc, and today ... FreeBSD 8.

So? If everybody else jumped off a bridge, would you follow them?



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From: Kelly Clowers on
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 10:36, Ken Heard <ken(a)heard.name> wrote:
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> Brent Clark wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know if Squeeze is going be Frozen in December or know of
>> anything for that matter.
>
> No announcement of a freeze yet, but read the following:
>
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> The Debian Project                                 http://www.debian.org/
> Debian adopts time-based release freezes                 press(a)debian.org
> July 29th, 2009                  http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090729
> - -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Debian decides to adopt time-based release freezes
>

<snip>

They backed off on that almost right away.


Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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