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From: Jordan Metzmeier on 24 Jun 2010 10:10 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Last night I was attempting to install spamassassin on my Lenny box. I had some difficulty doing so because it turned out that the volatile version had a lesser version number. The only ways I found to get the volatile version to install was to pin the volatile repo to > 1000. I then found that this is the same case with tzdata. Here are examples: tzdata: Installed: 2010a-0lenny1 Candidate: 2009l-0lenny1.1 Version table: *** 2010a-0lenny1 0 500 http://ftp.grokthis.net lenny/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 2009l-0lenny1.1 0 1001 http://volatile.debian.org lenny/volatile/main Packages spamassassin: Installed: 3.2.5-2+lenny1.1~volatile1 Candidate: 3.2.5-2+lenny1.1~volatile1 Version table: 3.3.1-1~bpo50+1 0 1 http://ftp.backports.org lenny-backports/main Packages 3.2.5-2+lenny2 0 500 http://ftp.grokthis.net lenny/main Packages *** 3.2.5-2+lenny1.1~volatile1 0 1001 http://volatile.debian.org lenny/volatile/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status Why are volatile versions made in a way so that using them is a "downgrade"? Is it possible that a Lenny point-release has obsoleted a volatile version of a package? Something just did not seem right about this... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJMI2TKAAoJEKj/C3qNthmTGd8QAJCexLEatv+jYNqIGCDZK/Sy 6N8qsodBco/S1NJRtjaR6M9GphzKwUtAds0HQKtgRi9N4rPsmAQgXs2nURcAQ4ei F3zI6jmmLT9fx9uYuhMDiBb0zzvz8L31kAH2sW73b5jowHWLAgunI3J0cVOLR+to tPZirrEzns/XPjitKJCEy1okwSvfKbXoq0BnpP3hpe+sGdPHIacTkoab383X5juV JRmJxjZM3hSgzG2MqV5V327dG3/ufQg3m1KdV4npudHdwqzcz8Yofvk8Gvg+XpXm YBTtbdRmg3UdCJTUT5hjNNUUmDbJRvJWK+qpw0TkhfvEd6hI+sgnFFLH9u6irVgl /PhLvY425FJVhFeiaP1EF7ciCCo3bqMhvSCIdEpMXszvcwDAKyEjqC9ZS0qUWsGX 1k+K1sGoan37QSg2uI8gaDb4QT0N39YTc5IoMg5incmSGVkJ28mJQuKpPb8X9YBC vSVXPyd/DiNyz836pLnYHTvFkjTLDsJz/nD2guTPfFPQf2gSaaWSKK7zUBy/N9PC t+UAVS9TaAFTXLefCId0vNKHo9wr0o/p3TmWMHoSsEFYk1voqRxZVgL+4+oZjPs/ wGD1bTnLZfc0spxnlJF7Vll11Q+UjTmWbCLIyxZSj8QBZ8j+tTCgpTWZecLAL0Dg S3VaQtKQpN2cRQzQDXiy =9mZV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4C2364CA.7010102(a)gmail.com
From: Liam O'Toole on 24 Jun 2010 13:00 On 2010-06-24, Jordan Metzmeier <titan8990(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > Last night I was attempting to install spamassassin on my Lenny box. I > had some difficulty doing so because it turned out that the volatile > version had a lesser version number. > > The only ways I found to get the volatile version to install was to pin > the volatile repo to > 1000. I then found that this is the same case > with tzdata. Here are examples: > > tzdata: > Installed: 2010a-0lenny1 > Candidate: 2009l-0lenny1.1 > Version table: > *** 2010a-0lenny1 0 > 500 http://ftp.grokthis.net lenny/main Packages > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > 2009l-0lenny1.1 0 > 1001 http://volatile.debian.org lenny/volatile/main Packages > > spamassassin: > Installed: 3.2.5-2+lenny1.1~volatile1 > Candidate: 3.2.5-2+lenny1.1~volatile1 > Version table: > 3.3.1-1~bpo50+1 0 > 1 http://ftp.backports.org lenny-backports/main Packages > 3.2.5-2+lenny2 0 > 500 http://ftp.grokthis.net lenny/main Packages > *** 3.2.5-2+lenny1.1~volatile1 0 > 1001 http://volatile.debian.org lenny/volatile/main Packages > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > > > > Why are volatile versions made in a way so that using them is a > "downgrade"? Is it possible that a Lenny point-release has obsoleted a > volatile version of a package? > > Something just did not seem right about this... > Both packages were updated in the last Lenny update[1], at which time they 'leap-frogged' the versions in volatile. Nothing to worry about. [1] http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100130 -- Liam O'Toole Cork, Ireland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrni2738i.56n.liam.p.otoole(a)dipsy.selfip.org
From: Jordan Metzmeier on 25 Jun 2010 09:30 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 06/24/2010 12:51 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote: > Both packages were updated in the last Lenny update[1], at which time > they 'leap-frogged' the versions in volatile. Nothing to worry about. > > [1] http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100130 > Got it, thanks for the reply. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJMJK3eAAoJEKj/C3qNthmTg8MQANBDkcSxxSMMKJ6/PzO5+q2u SbPt8ToSp8XulMYZnZlMPQPwjGeLval20DlK1bObYl3srf3r9vOupQKUemtgIrww s+REqYqPscNWchSQ6WmEAcTkgxZ3mKhCzzPXk/eqUhjYg9VIiAbQH3NQjmjsdJBh KWNSfFSIunWemG/UdXAaWE1pQaC+gGnTumSRXRKuBKtxH6GMbXbF4wdVljdiTBiz M9wo9//lPQQSmlTNlopC/M6orH2ulWGeTQ5nGJTaldRFBbBpoSfcwA7x2H12Qwwh ML1clxdlsyFXWl8agLPDRCvFh9reTopfJNdXw2yfkvGAs7p/Yod5vUx4MeOg05Z2 pl2drnjXp+3oPo2A+yawgQgpfy0h0lEzQS4VwXq++KcSrQTmxRe0ibInj2YEXrk0 Y2pJ+epdYAkDU5Rr7ICI+LreqZjQ6GtF2YuDtYOrMi7T46XlwHtYpUupZqv1OVZp MLG6YQnkMD6C8VMeVCZtU+JrO+uyD3XKGDj7BDzIhgqlNWFfn8uUlSwaVyy8Jw6N e5hNxohRQXiTvDqkEL0uXZitSezioSqbj1FN/j3WI03E8vmTzoRk9laxSNgFflT2 2pHA0j9IAQIyBugVoMZXjTrxD6UhzF18bFgIFJdK9a38PS01Dq1IeGD5QuRFdsj/ 0IlQ8y8ntAyDD7yIIeqr =AOGW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4C24ADDF.1000506(a)gmail.com
From: Jordan Metzmeier on 25 Jun 2010 12:10 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 06/25/2010 12:00 PM, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Thursday 24 June 2010 08:59:38 Jordan Metzmeier wrote: >> Last night I was attempting to install spamassassin on my Lenny box. I >> had some difficulty doing so because it turned out that the volatile >> version had a lesser version number. > > Liam already explain why this was so. > >> The only ways I found to get the volatile version to install was to pin >> the volatile repo to > 1000. I then found that this is the same case >> with tzdata. Here are examples: > > Please remember to drop this pinning. It is giving you out-of-date versions > on packages. Yes, I did this once I discovered that the debian main packages really were newer and included the same bug fixes in the changelogs. Thanks again. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJMJNL9AAoJEKj/C3qNthmT4CwP/ROfw8Jo39DTcWM5nq7j0VD8 Aj8Rql8Ckaipa0y/DbHuCXgeRjYC5clAVMS4tdZ/q1568/V9dPMRX1wrEkbwpv/C aqdJVG3STeClknnggucdfiJka4D4fyQgL8zbuoJcSGQURjU6nPLW7GcaBB89OZM3 nPMuzq43lxf/UWKugzOXdkge0R/6a3N6lQJRf9j4Y65eXt8dny12pQOT5GdMp5AU t9HCKZ4ocptTAuQXsTT46acOhfWOXOzFWSCMWR/j7B3Tpt5JbyTGoKz6MlMiGE0K l1AdIls92xD42vFmS8u15/s+xM49lwUvFFgYDFe7eY0+/MLpn0bJ3qqzeYial1ge 7ShqXUNckPuANfSYtmF64fBTjF70qHNja0mcM/CJttoJJHjkVK5n8PGAn+QeHdCy nxRjjp7iyA6bsujtJbOAuPojp/jIVeyhxqtfn7P87VORlSC1SM1WYF+RoGwcRD6X FvsLMApVbEP3iyVpQ5poY9MfFAWckMNC+085QLSkpt1otxSYckaB9TKFo1kQ9mFO DjU1Ej5klieVqp6KDlpcdz67/4bgCBheBBKada1YrVioyxWrEzsPLBfYsSQ3FMQQ tfNWO8OuG/JXRHK6WGlXZPijqu6mbJjCZ9TCMaSoX2ScyYaVoUTweckzxJNulZTy 1ZsjpHQ5qPKZAY6sjuUp =Bhd+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-REQUEST(a)lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster(a)lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4C24D2FD.7090308(a)gmail.com
From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. on 25 Jun 2010 12:10
On Thursday 24 June 2010 08:59:38 Jordan Metzmeier wrote: > Last night I was attempting to install spamassassin on my Lenny box. I > had some difficulty doing so because it turned out that the volatile > version had a lesser version number. Liam already explain why this was so. > The only ways I found to get the volatile version to install was to pin > the volatile repo to > 1000. I then found that this is the same case > with tzdata. Here are examples: Please remember to drop this pinning. It is giving you out-of-date versions on packages. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. bss(a)iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/ \_/ |