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From: rotchm on 4 Jun 2010 23:57 On Jun 4, 9:05 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 1, 1:48 am, rabid_fan <r...(a)righthere.net> wrote: > > > Neutrino oscillations were directly observed for the first time. > > This observation implies that neutrinos have mass and it thus > > contradicts the Standard Model. > > >http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2010/PR08.10E.html 1) The Standard model does not fully add up. 2) It has been build by ad-hoc add-ons 3) It uses undetectable entities ( virtual particles etc) Yet, the standard model is still taught and accepted. Lorentz Ether theories (and similar ones) 1) Do add up 2) Somewhat ad-hoc 3) Uses one undedectible entity (ether). Yet, such theories are rejected because it uses an undedectible entity. Thats hypocrisy.
From: Inertial on 5 Jun 2010 04:09 "rotchm" <rotchm(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:41cc4484-3992-44fd-a902-52c71cc75cbe(a)y11g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 4, 9:05 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On Jun 1, 1:48 am, rabid_fan <r...(a)righthere.net> wrote: >> >> > Neutrino oscillations were directly observed for the first time. >> > This observation implies that neutrinos have mass and it thus >> > contradicts the Standard Model. >> >> >http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2010/PR08.10E.html > > > 1) The Standard model does not fully add up. > 2) It has been build by ad-hoc add-ons > 3) It uses undetectable entities ( virtual particles etc) > Yet, the standard model is still taught and accepted. Until there is something better. Do you have something better? I doubt it. > Lorentz Ether theories (and similar ones) > > 1) Do add up > 2) Somewhat ad-hoc > 3) Uses one undedectible entity (ether). > Yet, such theories are rejected because it uses an undedectible > entity. No .. because SR does NOT have problems 2 and 3 .. and so is better. > Thats hypocrisy. NO .. its good science. A theory that 'works' is 'accepted' (tentatively) until something better comes along.
From: Dono. on 5 Jun 2010 13:19 On Jun 4, 8:57 pm, rotchm <rot...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 4, 9:05 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Jun 1, 1:48 am, rabid_fan <r...(a)righthere.net> wrote: > > > > Neutrino oscillations were directly observed for the first time. > > > This observation implies that neutrinos have mass and it thus > > > contradicts the Standard Model. > > > >http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2010/PR08.10E.html > > 1) The Standard model does not fully add up. You don't even beging to understand the SM, it is way above your abilities. > 2) It has been build by ad-hoc add-ons Nope, it was constructed to reflect the advancements in experimental physics. > 3) It uses undetectable entities ( virtual particles etc) > So, you want to reduce physics to your level of understanding? (i.e. 11-th grade high school) > Yet, the standard model is still taught and accepted. > Because it explains the physical reality. > Lorentz Ether theories (and similar ones) > > 1) Do add up > 2) Somewhat ad-hoc VERY ad-hoc. Require a DIFFERENT aether for each experiment. > 3) Uses one undedectible entity (ether). > > Yet, such theories are rejected because it uses an undedectible > entity. > > Thats hypocrisy. And you are the same aetherist idiot you've always been.
From: Igor on 5 Jun 2010 14:06 On Jun 4, 11:57 pm, rotchm <rot...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Jun 4, 9:05 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Jun 1, 1:48 am, rabid_fan <r...(a)righthere.net> wrote: > > > > Neutrino oscillations were directly observed for the first time. > > > This observation implies that neutrinos have mass and it thus > > > contradicts the Standard Model. > > > >http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2010/PR08.10E.html > > 1) The Standard model does not fully add up. > 2) It has been build by ad-hoc add-ons > 3) It uses undetectable entities ( virtual particles etc) > > Yet, the standard model is still taught and accepted. > > Lorentz Ether theories (and similar ones) > > 1) Do add up > 2) Somewhat ad-hoc > 3) Uses one undedectible entity (ether). > > Yet, such theories are rejected because it uses an undedectible > entity. > > Thats hypocrisy. No hypocrisy at all. Such theories were rejected because aether was completely unnecessary.
From: Y.Porat on 6 Jun 2010 05:54 On Jun 5, 7:19 pm, "Dono." <sa...(a)comcast.net> wrote: > On Jun 4, 8:57 pm, rotchm <rot...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Jun 4, 9:05 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jun 1, 1:48 am, rabid_fan <r...(a)righthere.net> wrote: > > > > > Neutrino oscillations were directly observed for the first time. > > > > This observation implies that neutrinos have mass and it thus > > > > contradicts the Standard Model. > > > > >http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2010/PR08.10E.html > > > 1) The Standard model does not fully add up. > > You don't even beging to understand the SM, it is way above your > abilities. > -------------------------- pompous fucker Lier!! do YOU UNDERSTAND IT ??!!! do you understand that th emass of 3 quarks is less than 10 percent of the Proton and the other 90 percent is 'Glutenous' doe syour fucken body and fucken mathematician brain composed of 90 percent 'Glueons !! (i bet you cam to physics from mathematics background) and i could add on it other 90 percent of nonsense physics that only fucken mathematicians and crooks as Inertial could do actually psychopath inertial never innovated anything **even not in curent stupid parts of physics ** he is a born parasite YOU CANT CHEAT EVERY BODY FOREVER !!! (though mankind was always composed of 10 percent crooks like you and 90 percent suckers !!! (:-)) Y.P ------------------
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