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From: rick_s on 4 Jun 2010 06:19
In article <neSdnajnKOK9a5XRnZ2dnUVZ_jadnZ2d(a)mchsi.com>, swormley1(a)gmail.com
says...
>
>
>On 6/3/10 1:22 PM, rick_s wrote:
>
>> Ow, I just got a neutrino in my eye from CERN. I am going to sue them for a
>> squillion dollars.
>>
>
> I doubt it--you'd have to pay an attorney.


Maybe I could get an undergraduate to work on'speck'.

From: J. Clarke on 4 Jun 2010 14:56
On 6/4/2010 6:19 AM, rick_s wrote:
> In article<neSdnajnKOK9a5XRnZ2dnUVZ_jadnZ2d(a)mchsi.com>, swormley1(a)gmail.com
> says...
>>
>>
>> On 6/3/10 1:22 PM, rick_s wrote:
>>
>>> Ow, I just got a neutrino in my eye from CERN. I am going to sue them for a
>>> squillion dollars.
>>>
>>
>> I doubt it--you'd have to pay an attorney.
>
>
> Maybe I could get an undergraduate to work on'speck'.

So mote it be.


From: rotchm on 4 Jun 2010 23:57
On Jun 4, 9:05 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 1, 1:48 am, rabid_fan <r...(a)righthere.net> wrote:
>
> > Neutrino oscillations were directly observed for the first time.
> > This observation implies that neutrinos have mass and it thus
> > contradicts the Standard Model.
>
> >http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2010/PR08.10E.html


1) The Standard model does not fully add up.
2) It has been build by ad-hoc add-ons
3) It uses undetectable entities ( virtual particles etc)

Yet, the standard model is still taught and accepted.

Lorentz Ether theories (and similar ones)

1) Do add up
2) Somewhat ad-hoc
3) Uses one undedectible entity (ether).

Yet, such theories are rejected because it uses an undedectible
entity.

Thats hypocrisy.



From: Inertial on 5 Jun 2010 04:09
"rotchm" <rotchm(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:41cc4484-3992-44fd-a902-52c71cc75cbe(a)y11g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 4, 9:05 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 1, 1:48 am, rabid_fan <r...(a)righthere.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Neutrino oscillations were directly observed for the first time.
>> > This observation implies that neutrinos have mass and it thus
>> > contradicts the Standard Model.
>>
>> >http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2010/PR08.10E.html
>
>
> 1) The Standard model does not fully add up.
> 2) It has been build by ad-hoc add-ons
> 3) It uses undetectable entities ( virtual particles etc)
> Yet, the standard model is still taught and accepted.

Until there is something better. Do you have something better? I doubt it.

> Lorentz Ether theories (and similar ones)
>
> 1) Do add up
> 2) Somewhat ad-hoc
> 3) Uses one undedectible entity (ether).
> Yet, such theories are rejected because it uses an undedectible
> entity.

No .. because SR does NOT have problems 2 and 3 .. and so is better.

> Thats hypocrisy.

NO .. its good science. A theory that 'works' is 'accepted' (tentatively)
until something better comes along.


From: Dono. on 5 Jun 2010 13:19
On Jun 4, 8:57 pm, rotchm <rot...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 4, 9:05 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jun 1, 1:48 am, rabid_fan <r...(a)righthere.net> wrote:
>
> > > Neutrino oscillations were directly observed for the first time.
> > > This observation implies that neutrinos have mass and it thus
> > > contradicts the Standard Model.
>
> > >http://press.web.cern.ch/press/PressReleases/Releases2010/PR08.10E.html
>
> 1) The Standard model does not fully add up.

You don't even beging to understand the SM, it is way above your
abilities.


> 2) It has been build by ad-hoc add-ons

Nope, it was constructed to reflect the advancements in experimental
physics.


> 3) It uses undetectable entities ( virtual particles etc)
>

So, you want to reduce physics to your level of understanding? (i.e.
11-th grade high school)


> Yet, the standard model is still taught and accepted.
>

Because it explains the physical reality.


> Lorentz Ether theories (and similar ones)
>
> 1) Do add up
> 2) Somewhat ad-hoc

VERY ad-hoc. Require a DIFFERENT aether for each experiment.


> 3) Uses one undedectible entity (ether).
>
> Yet, such theories are rejected because it uses an undedectible
> entity.
>
> Thats hypocrisy.

And you are the same aetherist idiot you've always been.

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