Static When Capturing VHS Tapes
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From: NY2LA on 16 Mar 2010 01:03 Sorry to rant, but I think it is enormously counter productive when a forum "archives" a topic and makes it no longer possible to add comments. I know this is probably Google's decision, and may not be under the control of the moderators. I've been planning to add additional comments to my "Static When Capturing VHS Tapes" topic. I am extremely annoyed to discover it is no longer possible. I would like to be able to add a comment a decade or 100 years from now. Anyway, I've encountered a video on YouTube with precisely the kind of audio static that I've been experiencing, Although I did receive several helpful replies when I posted, I'm wondering if this would help anyone elaborate on the probable cause. You need listen to only the first ten or fifteen seconds to get the idea. It's called SUBURBAN LAWNS - JANITOR, posted by spadge321 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32-LHS2-LxU& Just to clarify, this video has nothing to do with me; I am providing the link to it only as a demonstration of the static.
From: Grant on 16 Mar 2010 02:59 On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:03:55 -0700 (PDT), NY2LA <forumfriend(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >Sorry to rant, but I think it is enormously counter productive when a >forum "archives" a topic and makes it no longer possible to add >comments. I know this is probably Google's decision, and may not be >under the control of the moderators. This is not a forum, this is not google, this is Usenet. Google happen to provide a web based crappy interface that wrecks the Usenet experience. Usenet is accessed via nntp. Use a proper news client. It's normal to reply to one's own postings to add information while keep your topic threaded. Grant.
From: stratus46 on 16 Mar 2010 03:11 On Mar 15, 10:03 pm, NY2LA <forumfri...(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > Sorry to rant, but I think it is enormously counter productive when a > forum "archives" a topic and makes it no longer possible to add > comments. I know this is probably Google's decision, and may not be > under the control of the moderators. > > I've been planning to add additional comments to my "Static When > Capturing VHS Tapes" topic. I am extremely annoyed to discover it is > no longer possible. I would like to be able to add a comment a decade > or 100 years from now. > > Anyway, I've encountered a video on YouTube with precisely the kind of > audio static that I've been experiencing, Although I did receive > several helpful replies when I posted, I'm wondering if this would > help anyone elaborate on the probable cause. You need listen to only > the first ten or fifteen seconds to get the idea. > > It's called SUBURBAN LAWNS - JANITOR, posted by spadge321http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32-LHS2-LxU& > > Just to clarify, this video has nothing to do with me; I am providing > the link to it only as a demonstration of the static. The static is from the hifi audio tracks recorded with the video RF on the rotary heads. It may be as trivial as adjusting the tracking or it may be from guide alignment such that the playback RF has significant drops in level. This can happen from mis-alignment of the deck that recorded the tape or the player and / or simple wearout of the drum and guides. How important is the transfer? Enough to justify aligning the player to the faulty tape? I've done it with consumer formats and SMPTE C broadcast decks - but it'll cost you. G²
From: PeterD on 16 Mar 2010 09:27 On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:03:55 -0700 (PDT), NY2LA <forumfriend(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >Sorry to rant, but I think it is enormously counter productive when a >forum "archives" a topic and makes it no longer possible to add >comments. Usenet does not 'archive' topics or threads. Google, a poor way ot access Usenet, with very limited functionality may do so, but it is simply not following the 'rules' which don't have an 'archive' capability. Complain to Google, or better yet, get a real news reader (such as Agent, or Thunderbird) and a real Usenet feed, and you'll be *much* happier. >I know this is probably Google's decision, and may not be >under the control of the moderators. There are no moderators here. As to Google, again, what do they know? > >I've been planning to add additional comments to my "Static When >Capturing VHS Tapes" topic. I am extremely annoyed to discover it is >no longer possible. I would like to be able to add a comment a decade >or 100 years from now. You can. Not saying you should, but you can. Messages age off Usenet (to avoid filling server's hard drives, and as well most user programs (such as Agent and Thunderbird) will discard old messages to conserve disk space. > >Anyway, I've encountered a video on YouTube with precisely the kind of >audio static that I've been experiencing, Although I did receive >several helpful replies when I posted, I'm wondering if this would >help anyone elaborate on the probable cause. You need listen to only >the first ten or fifteen seconds to get the idea. > >It's called SUBURBAN LAWNS - JANITOR, posted by spadge321 >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32-LHS2-LxU& Dear dog, that was horrible... Truely awful! > >Just to clarify, this video has nothing to do with me; I am providing >the link to it only as a demonstration of the static. The 'fold-over' at the top of the video?
From: NY2LA on 19 Mar 2010 18:31 On Mar 16, 12:11 am, stratu...(a)yahoo.com wrote: > The static is from the hifi audio tracks recorded with the video RF on > the rotary heads. It may be as trivial as adjusting the tracking or it > may be from guide alignment such that the playback RF has significant > drops in level. This can happen from mis-alignment of the deck that > recorded the tape or the player and / or simple wearout of the drum > and guides. How important is the transfer? Enough to justify aligning > the player to the faulty tape? I've done it with consumer formats and > SMPTE C broadcast decks - but it'll cost you. > > G² Finally, I've taken time to more carefully experiment with adjusting the tracking, a common suggestion when I previously posted this topic: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics.repair/browse_thread/thread/1e40c1e81abead79# I tried both Tape A and Tape B on both of my new VCR's, and it turns out it is possible to significantly reduce the static in every case -- maybe not completely, but good enough for these particular tapes. Nevertheless, I am curious about your procedure for adjusting a player specifically for a faulty tape. I am capturing numerous tapes, and expect to run into this problem again, perhaps with something more important. You say it would cost me. Who would do this for me?
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