From: Theo Markettos on 13 Jul 2010 12:40 Simon Brooke <stillyet+nntp(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > H'mmm... On my Dell Mini 9 (which shipped with Hardy Heron installed) the > upgrade to 10.04 messed up badly so I did a clean new install and found > that the wireless interface was not cleanly autodetected - I had to go > and hunt around for the right driver package. > > Not as user friendly as I'd expected from Canonical. What driver did you use in the end? I just upgraded my Mini 9 to 10.04 and have wireless that can see WLANs in the neighbourhood, but can't connect to any (all have encryption). On 9.04 it connected to WEP fine. On another machine with an Intel 2200 card Ubuntu 7.10 could do WPA2 as well (in other words, upgrading 7.10 to 9.04 broke WPA2). Sigh. Every Ubuntu upgrade breaks something. Theo
From: Simon Brooke on 14 Jul 2010 09:16 On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 17:40:20 +0100, Theo Markettos wrote: > Simon Brooke <stillyet+nntp(a)googlemail.com> wrote: >> H'mmm... On my Dell Mini 9 (which shipped with Hardy Heron installed) >> the upgrade to 10.04 messed up badly so I did a clean new install and >> found that the wireless interface was not cleanly autodetected - I had >> to go and hunt around for the right driver package. >> >> Not as user friendly as I'd expected from Canonical. > > What driver did you use in the end? I just upgraded my Mini 9 to 10.04 > and have wireless that can see WLANs in the neighbourhood, but can't > connect to any (all have encryption). On 9.04 it connected to WEP fine. > On another machine with an Intel 2200 card Ubuntu 7.10 could do WPA2 as > well (in other words, upgrading 7.10 to 9.04 broke WPA2). I installed the bcmwl-kernel-source and bcmwl-modalias packages. But then I went to the 'Hardware Drivers' system app, and selected the 'Broadcom STA proprietary wireless driver'. It works, well, with both encrypted and unencrypted wireless networks (I have both in the house). > Sigh. Every Ubuntu upgrade breaks something. Don't I know it! I've gone back to Debian for my desktop box. Ubuntu is lovely when it works, but a real pig when it doesn't. -- ;; Semper in faecibus sumus, sole profundam variat
From: Theo Markettos on 15 Jul 2010 08:36 Simon Brooke <stillyet+nntp(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > I installed the bcmwl-kernel-source and bcmwl-modalias packages. But then > I went to the 'Hardware Drivers' system app, and selected the 'Broadcom > STA proprietary wireless driver'. It works, well, with both encrypted and > unencrypted wireless networks (I have both in the house). Ah, thanks. I'll give that a try. > Don't I know it! I've gone back to Debian for my desktop box. Ubuntu is > lovely when it works, but a real pig when it doesn't. I've been wondering about Debian 'testing' for a desktop, rather than Ubuntu. The Ubuntu forced-upgrade cycle is a bit of a pain, as is the need to either do it every 6 months or go through several generations at a time. With 'testing' at least the upgrades come in regular small chunks. Or is 'testing' even more of a gory mess? Theo
From: Simon Brooke on 15 Jul 2010 08:52 On Thu, 15 Jul 2010 13:36:01 +0100, Theo Markettos wrote: > Simon Brooke <stillyet+nntp(a)googlemail.com> wrote: >> Don't I know it! I've gone back to Debian for my desktop box. Ubuntu is >> lovely when it works, but a real pig when it doesn't. > > I've been wondering about Debian 'testing' for a desktop, rather than > Ubuntu. The Ubuntu forced-upgrade cycle is a bit of a pain, as is the > need to either do it every 6 months or go through several generations at > a time. With 'testing' at least the upgrades come in regular small > chunks. Or is 'testing' even more of a gory mess? Wouldn't know, I'm running 'stable'. I can do without bleeding edge on the machine I do my everyday work on! -- ;; Semper in faecibus sumus, sole profundam variat
From: Richard Kettlewell on 15 Jul 2010 09:08 Theo Markettos <theom+news(a)chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes: > Simon Brooke <stillyet+nntp(a)googlemail.com> wrote: >> Don't I know it! I've gone back to Debian for my desktop box. Ubuntu >> is lovely when it works, but a real pig when it doesn't. > > I've been wondering about Debian 'testing' for a desktop, rather than > Ubuntu. The Ubuntu forced-upgrade cycle is a bit of a pain, as is the > need to either do it every 6 months or go through several generations > at a time. With 'testing' at least the upgrades come in regular small > chunks. Or is 'testing' even more of a gory mess? Personally I think I'd go straight to unstable, and be cautious about upgrades. A colleague does, or used to do, this and I don't recall constant complaints about the consequences. I track unstable in a VM and it's not broken anything horribly, but my demands of it are modest, so that might not be a good guide to anything. -- http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/
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