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From: Richard Bonner on 9 Dec 2009 10:15 AJL (339(a)fakeaddress.com) wrote: > BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: > >http://austin.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2009/11/16/daily22.html > It says that 1/3 of those failures are from accidents. It seems odd > that they would include accidents in a laptop failure statistic. I > would think that accidents should be listed under a human failure > statistic... *** It may be an indicator of how ruggedly (or not) a model is built. -- Richard Bonner http://www.chebucto.ca/~ak621/DOS/
From: Richard Bonner on 9 Dec 2009 10:26 Ian D (taurus(a)nowhereatall.com) wrote: > >> BillW50<BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: > >>> http://austin.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2009/11/16/daily22.html > There's something strange with the math. It says 1/3 of the > 30,000 sample failed in the first 3 years, yet the worst offender, > HP had a bit more than a 1 in 4 failure rate. The total failure > rate is 33%, but the worst make only has a 25.6% failure rate. > On the actual graph, HP has a measured 2 year failure rate of > 16%, and the 3 year 25.6% rate is only a projection. (Snip) *** One needs to look at the total numbers to determine the group percentages, unless each company had the same number of laptops in the survey. So HP may have had a 25% failure rate, but that does not mean that 7500 of the 30,000 laptops were theirs. -- Richard Bonner http://www.chebucto.ca/~ak621/DOS/
From: Ian D on 9 Dec 2009 16:25 "Richard Bonner" <ak621(a)chebucto.ns.ca> wrote in message news:hfofj6$719$4(a)Kil-nws-1.UCIS.Dal.Ca... > Ian D (taurus(a)nowhereatall.com) wrote: > >> >> BillW50<BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote: >> >>> http://austin.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2009/11/16/daily22.html > >> There's something strange with the math. It says 1/3 of the >> 30,000 sample failed in the first 3 years, yet the worst offender, >> HP had a bit more than a 1 in 4 failure rate. The total failure >> rate is 33%, but the worst make only has a 25.6% failure rate. >> On the actual graph, HP has a measured 2 year failure rate of >> 16%, and the 3 year 25.6% rate is only a projection. > (Snip) > > *** One needs to look at the total numbers to determine the > group percentages, unless each company had the same number of laptops in > the survey. So HP may have had a 25% failure rate, but that does not mean > that 7500 of the 30,000 laptops were theirs. > > -- > Richard Bonner > http://www.chebucto.ca/~ak621/DOS/ > I think that they were looking at failure rates within a brand. I would assume that HP probably had the highest number of units in the survey. Apple would probably a low total sample, as most Mac owners would opt for Apple Care for an extended warranty. Another problem I have with this survey is, what constitutes a failure. Is it total boot failure or things like stuck pixels, detached keycaps, power adapter problems, etc? You could have a laptop with top rated internal components, but with a flimsy casing or keyboard. Also, some makes will tend to be babied by their owners. Sony and Apple probably fall into this bracket. Any relation to Dan Bonner?
From: ~misfit~ on 9 Dec 2009 17:43 Somewhere on teh intarwebs BillW50 wrote: > On 12/8/2009 4:45 PM, Ian D wrote: >> The November Consumer Reports also had a laptop reliability >> analysis. Apple was #1 and HP was in the middle of the pack. > > My online Consumer Reports says differently. Strange, eh? > > Laptop computers Reliability 2005-2009 > Repairs and Serious Problems > ---------------------------- > Toshiba 16% > Sony 17% > Compaq 18% > Acer 19% > Apple 19% > HP 20% > Gateway 20% > Dell 21% > Lenovo 21% > > http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/electronics-computers/computers-internet/computers/laptop-ratings/brand-reliability.htm Wot no Asus? (The link is no good if you're not subscribed and have the required cookies.) -- Shaun. "Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day. But set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life." Terry Pratchet, 'Jingo'.
From: AJL on 9 Dec 2009 18:55
ak621(a)chebucto.ns.ca (Richard Bonner) wrote: >AJL (339(a)fakeaddress.com) wrote: >> >http://austin.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2009/11/16/daily22.html > >> It says that 1/3 of those failures are from accidents. It seems odd >> that they would include accidents in a laptop failure statistic. I >> would think that accidents should be listed under a human failure >> statistic... > >*** It may be an indicator of how ruggedly (or not) a model is built. Or it may be an indicator that more careless people buy Asus products... |