From: Richard Bonner on
AJL (339(a)fakeaddress.com) wrote:

> BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:
> >http://austin.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2009/11/16/daily22.html

> It says that 1/3 of those failures are from accidents. It seems odd
> that they would include accidents in a laptop failure statistic. I
> would think that accidents should be listed under a human failure
> statistic...

*** It may be an indicator of how ruggedly (or not) a model is built.

--
Richard Bonner
http://www.chebucto.ca/~ak621/DOS/

From: Richard Bonner on
Ian D (taurus(a)nowhereatall.com) wrote:

> >> BillW50<BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:
> >>> http://austin.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2009/11/16/daily22.html

> There's something strange with the math. It says 1/3 of the
> 30,000 sample failed in the first 3 years, yet the worst offender,
> HP had a bit more than a 1 in 4 failure rate. The total failure
> rate is 33%, but the worst make only has a 25.6% failure rate.
> On the actual graph, HP has a measured 2 year failure rate of
> 16%, and the 3 year 25.6% rate is only a projection.
(Snip)

*** One needs to look at the total numbers to determine the
group percentages, unless each company had the same number of laptops in
the survey. So HP may have had a 25% failure rate, but that does not mean
that 7500 of the 30,000 laptops were theirs.

--
Richard Bonner
http://www.chebucto.ca/~ak621/DOS/

From: Ian D on

"Richard Bonner" <ak621(a)chebucto.ns.ca> wrote in message
news:hfofj6$719$4(a)Kil-nws-1.UCIS.Dal.Ca...
> Ian D (taurus(a)nowhereatall.com) wrote:
>
>> >> BillW50<BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:
>> >>> http://austin.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2009/11/16/daily22.html
>
>> There's something strange with the math. It says 1/3 of the
>> 30,000 sample failed in the first 3 years, yet the worst offender,
>> HP had a bit more than a 1 in 4 failure rate. The total failure
>> rate is 33%, but the worst make only has a 25.6% failure rate.
>> On the actual graph, HP has a measured 2 year failure rate of
>> 16%, and the 3 year 25.6% rate is only a projection.
> (Snip)
>
> *** One needs to look at the total numbers to determine the
> group percentages, unless each company had the same number of laptops in
> the survey. So HP may have had a 25% failure rate, but that does not mean
> that 7500 of the 30,000 laptops were theirs.
>
> --
> Richard Bonner
> http://www.chebucto.ca/~ak621/DOS/
>

I think that they were looking at failure rates within a brand.
I would assume that HP probably had the highest number
of units in the survey. Apple would probably a low total
sample, as most Mac owners would opt for Apple Care for
an extended warranty.

Another problem I have with this survey is, what constitutes
a failure. Is it total boot failure or things like stuck pixels,
detached keycaps, power adapter problems, etc? You could
have a laptop with top rated internal components, but with a
flimsy casing or keyboard. Also, some makes will tend to be
babied by their owners. Sony and Apple probably fall into
this bracket.

Any relation to Dan Bonner?


From: ~misfit~ on
Somewhere on teh intarwebs BillW50 wrote:
> On 12/8/2009 4:45 PM, Ian D wrote:
>> The November Consumer Reports also had a laptop reliability
>> analysis. Apple was #1 and HP was in the middle of the pack.
>
> My online Consumer Reports says differently. Strange, eh?
>
> Laptop computers Reliability 2005-2009
> Repairs and Serious Problems
> ----------------------------
> Toshiba 16%
> Sony 17%
> Compaq 18%
> Acer 19%
> Apple 19%
> HP 20%
> Gateway 20%
> Dell 21%
> Lenovo 21%
>
> http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/electronics-computers/computers-internet/computers/laptop-ratings/brand-reliability.htm

Wot no Asus?

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From: AJL on
ak621(a)chebucto.ns.ca (Richard Bonner) wrote:

>AJL (339(a)fakeaddress.com) wrote:

>> >http://austin.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/stories/2009/11/16/daily22.html
>
>> It says that 1/3 of those failures are from accidents. It seems odd
>> that they would include accidents in a laptop failure statistic. I
>> would think that accidents should be listed under a human failure
>> statistic...
>
>*** It may be an indicator of how ruggedly (or not) a model is built.

Or it may be an indicator that more careless people
buy Asus products...