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From: Uncle Al on 17 Dec 2009 13:19
"nuny(a)bid.nes" wrote:
>
> On Dec 16, 3:18 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...(a)hate.spam.net> wrote:
>
> > The local news reported early this year that
> > LA Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa (go ahead - you pronounce it) and his
> > diversity accountants "discovered" a $420+ million shortfall in the LA
> > City budget, "almost $1 million day."
>
> And people wonder how the Austrian "made such a mess" of California.

What California needs is a dozen more Nazis and 20 million fewer
Blacks and Browns. NASA, too.

--
Uncle Al
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(Toxic URL! Unsafe for children and most mammals)
http://www.mazepath.com/uncleal/qz4.htm
From: Tomasso on 17 Dec 2009 18:17

"Forthminder" <mentifex(a)myuw.net> wrote in message
news:cd02d7b4-5a4c-48ca-ba59-b180876757c4(a)2g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
> Big Physics is a luxury that the human race can
> no longer afford. It would be far better to
> reallocate the enormous funds being squandered
> and wasted on nuclear physics and create
> artificial intelligence on supercomputers --
> another spendy resource that should be taken
> away from the Dr. Strangeloves of this world
> and be directed towards what really matters --
> the coming Technological Singularity.
>
> Mentifex
> --
> http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/Mind.html
> http://mind.sourceforge.net/aisteps.html
> http://mentifex.virtualentity.com/m4thuser.html
> http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/thesword/2009/12/nuclear-physics-hit-hardest-by.html

AI is a branch of (mathematical) physics.

Just think of it as a structural extension of information theory.

Most AI nowadays is about approximation theory, logic and representation.

T.

From: zzbunker on 18 Dec 2009 03:22
On Dec 17, 6:17 pm, "Tomasso" <brea...(a)you.fool.au> wrote:
> "Forthminder" <menti...(a)myuw.net> wrote in message
>
> news:cd02d7b4-5a4c-48ca-ba59-b180876757c4(a)2g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > Big Physics is a luxury that the human race can
> > no longer afford. It would be far better to
> > reallocate the enormous funds being squandered
> > and wasted on nuclear physics and create
> > artificial intelligence on supercomputers --
> > another spendy resource that should be taken
> > away from the Dr. Strangeloves of this world
> > and be directed towards what really matters --
> > the coming Technological Singularity.
>
> > Mentifex
> > --
> >http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/Mind.html
> >http://mind.sourceforge.net/aisteps.html
> >http://mentifex.virtualentity.com/m4thuser.html
> >http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/thesword/2009/12/nuclear-physics-hi...
>
> AI is a branch of (mathematical) physics.
>
> Just think of it as a structural extension of information theory.

Well, that's impossible. Since the only thing the AI idiots
even know about "structure" is "ICs". Which is why the non-idiot
people invented XML and Desktop Publishing rather than transitors
anyway

And since the only thing the idiots know about information theory
is IBM
that's why the invented HDTV, mp3, mpeg, Digital Books, USB,
Multiplexed Fiber Optics,
Self-Replicating Machines, Self-Assembling Robots, Atomic Clock
Wristwatches,
Digital Terrain Mapping, GPS, Data Fusion, Home Broadband, and the
21st Century.
Rather than idiot stuff like Analytic Continuation anyway.




>
> Most AI nowadays is about approximation theory, logic and representation.
>
> T.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

From: jmfbahciv on 18 Dec 2009 08:29
[spit out all but s.p]

Uncle Al wrote:

<snip second copy of post>

Uncle? Your newsreader or server (or none of the above)
is repeating itself today.

/BAH
From: Tomasso on 18 Dec 2009 19:51
zzbunker(a)netscape.net wrote:
> On Dec 17, 6:17 pm, "Tomasso" <brea...(a)you.fool.au> wrote:
>> "Forthminder" <menti...(a)myuw.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:cd02d7b4-5a4c-48ca-ba59-b180876757c4(a)2g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> Big Physics is a luxury that the human race can
>>> no longer afford. It would be far better to
>>> reallocate the enormous funds being squandered
>>> and wasted on nuclear physics and create
>>> artificial intelligence on supercomputers --
>>> another spendy resource that should be taken
>>> away from the Dr. Strangeloves of this world
>>> and be directed towards what really matters --
>>> the coming Technological Singularity.
>>
>>> Mentifex
>>> --
>>> http://www.scn.org/~mentifex/Mind.html
>>> http://mind.sourceforge.net/aisteps.html
>>> http://mentifex.virtualentity.com/m4thuser.html
>>> http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/thesword/2009/12/nuclear-physics-hi...
>>
>> AI is a branch of (mathematical) physics.
>>
>> Just think of it as a structural extension of information theory.
>
> Well, that's impossible. Since the only thing the AI idiots
> even know about "structure" is "ICs". Which is why the non-idiot
> people invented XML and Desktop Publishing rather than transitors
> anyway

To make it clearer for you:

I wrote " structural extension", not "physical extension".

> And since the only thing the idiots know about information theory
> is IBM
> that's why the invented HDTV, mp3, mpeg, Digital Books, USB,
> Multiplexed Fiber Optics,
> Self-Replicating Machines, Self-Assembling Robots, Atomic Clock
> Wristwatches,
> Digital Terrain Mapping, GPS, Data Fusion, Home Broadband, and the
> 21st Century.
> Rather than idiot stuff like Analytic Continuation anyway.

Well no!

Much of that stuff in your list is application of physics, not application of
representation. Some of it is about compression. Some is about
discretisation.

If a representational framework is a reasonable for holding models
of parts of reality (whether RDF or anything else) then information
can stop being measured in "bits" and start being measured as
"answers to questions worth answering".

Noto Bene, the above sentence is not trivial. Furthermore, it is not well
understood by many people. It's starting to find a home in fields like
"sense making".

Tomasso.

>> Most AI nowadays is about approximation theory, logic and representation.
>>
>> T.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
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