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From: Mark F on 23 Jan 2009 14:42 I am running Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 3, 1GB RAM, EIDE system disk. I find that my system hangs when a data disk has an error, temporary or permanent, that requires extensive data recovery. My system and usual data disks are motherboard EIDE ports. The disks with errors are on a PCI SATA adapter. In particular, I use disks for backups and I "burn-in" the new disks by writing random data to them and then reading them. Typically there are one or two errors during the write pass that cause the system to hang for at least a minute. Sometimes there is a Event Viewer Error Event ID: 9 message with Description: "The device, \Device\Scsi\SI3114r1, did not respond within the timeout period." If I get the Event ID: 9 message there are also some Event ID: 51 Warning messages with description "An error was detected on device \Device\HarddiskX\Y during a paging operation. If I move the mouse around or otherwise get impatient I can also some Event ID: 12, Information, with description "The ring buffer that stores incoming mouse data has overflowed [buffer size is configurable via the PS/2 mouse properties in device manager]." My problem is not that there are errors on the disk, but rather that the entire system seems to hang during the error recovery. There also can be hangs that don't give any Event Viewer messages; I assume that this is because although there was a problem on the SATA disk under test, the problem was fixed in times noticeable by a human, but not so long as to get a recordable timeout error. Is there a way that I can change my system configuration so only processes doing operations on the disk doing error recovery are delayed? It doesn't seem right that the entire system hangs, given that the system disk, which is the paging disk, are on a motherboard adapter for a different interface (PATA, not SATA, in this case.) Alternatively, is there a way to reduce the timeout time so that I can get more Event Viewer messages. For completeness: The most recent disks that I have had the problem were Seagate ST31500341AS drives various part numbers and firmware. However, I don't think that the hang is due to the particular model disk. I have had the problem with other model SATA drives from Seagate and Western Digital.
From: Gerry on 24 Jan 2009 08:23 Mark Have a look in the System and Application logs in Event Viewer for Errors and Warnings and post copies here. Don't post any more than 48 hours ago. You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel, Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description are important. HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from Event Viewer. -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mark F wrote: > I am running Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 3, 1GB RAM, > EIDE system disk. > > I find that my system hangs when a data disk has an error, temporary > or permanent, that requires extensive data recovery. > > My system and usual data disks are motherboard EIDE ports. > > The disks with errors are on a PCI SATA adapter. > > In particular, I use disks for backups and I "burn-in" the new disks > by writing random data to them and then reading them. Typically there > are one or two errors during the write pass that cause the system to > hang for at least a minute. Sometimes there is a Event Viewer > Error Event ID: 9 message with Description: > "The device, \Device\Scsi\SI3114r1, did not respond within the timeout > period." > If I get the Event ID: 9 message there are also some Event ID: 51 > Warning messages with description "An error was detected on device > \Device\HarddiskX\Y during a paging operation. > If I move the mouse > around or otherwise get impatient I can also some Event ID: 12, > Information, with description > "The ring buffer that stores incoming mouse data has overflowed > [buffer size is configurable via the PS/2 mouse properties in device > manager]." > > My problem is not that there are errors on the disk, but rather that > the entire system seems to hang during the error recovery. > > There also can be hangs that don't give any Event Viewer messages; > I assume that this is because although there was a problem on the > SATA disk under test, the problem was fixed in times noticeable by > a human, but not so long as to get a recordable timeout error. > > Is there a way that I can change my system configuration so > only processes doing operations on the disk doing error recovery > are delayed? It doesn't seem right that the entire system hangs, > given that the system disk, which is the paging disk, are on a > motherboard adapter for a different interface (PATA, not SATA, in > this case.) > > Alternatively, is there a way to reduce the timeout time so that > I can get more Event Viewer messages. > > For completeness: The most recent disks that I have had the problem > were Seagate ST31500341AS drives various part numbers and firmware. > However, I don't think that the hang is due to the particular model > disk. I have had the problem with other model SATA drives from > Seagate and Western Digital.
From: juliusseizure on 25 Jan 2009 08:30 sorry bout this but this site wont let me post new topic and "help" doesnt. so im piggy backing on this post..do forgive. my pc v.often wont boot its driving me nuts, the green light at the front of my pc"startup button" flashes sometimes up to an hour before it stops and i can then press the startup buttonand it boots no prob. any help gratefully appreciated. "Mark F" wrote: > I am running Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 3, 1GB RAM, > EIDE system disk. > > I find that my system hangs when a data disk has an error, temporary > or permanent, that requires extensive data recovery. > > My system and usual data disks are motherboard EIDE ports. > > The disks with errors are on a PCI SATA adapter. > > In particular, I use disks for backups and I "burn-in" the new disks > by writing random data to them and then reading them. Typically there > are one or two errors during the write pass that cause the system to > hang for at least a minute. Sometimes there is a Event Viewer > Error Event ID: 9 message with Description: > "The device, \Device\Scsi\SI3114r1, did not respond within the timeout > period." > If I get the Event ID: 9 message there are also some Event ID: 51 > Warning messages with description "An error was detected on device > \Device\HarddiskX\Y during a paging operation. > If I move the mouse > around or otherwise get impatient I can also some Event ID: 12, > Information, with description > "The ring buffer that stores incoming mouse data has overflowed > [buffer size is configurable via the PS/2 mouse properties in device > manager]." > > My problem is not that there are errors on the disk, but rather that > the entire system seems to hang during the error recovery. > > There also can be hangs that don't give any Event Viewer messages; > I assume that this is because although there was a problem on the > SATA disk under test, the problem was fixed in times noticeable by > a human, but not so long as to get a recordable timeout error. > > Is there a way that I can change my system configuration so > only processes doing operations on the disk doing error recovery > are delayed? It doesn't seem right that the entire system hangs, > given that the system disk, which is the paging disk, are on a > motherboard adapter for a different interface (PATA, not SATA, in > this case.) > > Alternatively, is there a way to reduce the timeout time so that > I can get more Event Viewer messages. > > For completeness: The most recent disks that I have had the problem > were Seagate ST31500341AS drives various part numbers and firmware. > However, I don't think that the hang is due to the particular model > disk. I have had the problem with other model SATA drives from > Seagate and Western Digital. >
From: Gerry on 25 Jan 2009 09:36 Julius Read this link so that you do not need to piggy back next time: http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/locales/help/help_en-us.htm#PostNewQuestion What are your ant-virus and anti-spyware arrangements? Are there any errors in Event Viewer? Have a look in the System and Application logs in Event Viewer for Errors and Warnings and post copies here. Don't post any more than 48hours ago. You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel, Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description are important. HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-usA A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event Viewer. Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of the message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from Event Viewer. -- Hope this helps. Gerry ~~~~ FCA Stourport, England Enquire, plan and execute ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ juliusseizure wrote: > sorry bout this but this site wont let me post new topic and "help" > doesnt. so im piggy backing on this post..do forgive. my pc v.often > wont boot its driving me nuts, the green light at the front of my > pc"startup button" flashes sometimes up to an hour before it stops > and i can then press the startup buttonand it boots no prob. any help > gratefully appreciated. > > "Mark F" wrote: > >> I am running Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 3, 1GB RAM, >> EIDE system disk. >> >> I find that my system hangs when a data disk has an error, temporary >> or permanent, that requires extensive data recovery. >> >> My system and usual data disks are motherboard EIDE ports. >> >> The disks with errors are on a PCI SATA adapter. >> >> In particular, I use disks for backups and I "burn-in" the new disks >> by writing random data to them and then reading them. Typically >> there are one or two errors during the write pass that cause the >> system to hang for at least a minute. Sometimes there is a Event >> Viewer >> Error Event ID: 9 message with Description: >> "The device, \Device\Scsi\SI3114r1, did not respond within the >> timeout period." >> If I get the Event ID: 9 message there are also some Event ID: 51 >> Warning messages with description "An error was detected on device >> \Device\HarddiskX\Y during a paging operation. >> If I move the mouse >> around or otherwise get impatient I can also some Event ID: 12, >> Information, with description >> "The ring buffer that stores incoming mouse data has overflowed >> [buffer size is configurable via the PS/2 mouse properties in device >> manager]." >> >> My problem is not that there are errors on the disk, but rather that >> the entire system seems to hang during the error recovery. >> >> There also can be hangs that don't give any Event Viewer messages; >> I assume that this is because although there was a problem on the >> SATA disk under test, the problem was fixed in times noticeable by >> a human, but not so long as to get a recordable timeout error. >> >> Is there a way that I can change my system configuration so >> only processes doing operations on the disk doing error recovery >> are delayed? It doesn't seem right that the entire system hangs, >> given that the system disk, which is the paging disk, are on a >> motherboard adapter for a different interface (PATA, not SATA, in >> this case.) >> >> Alternatively, is there a way to reduce the timeout time so that >> I can get more Event Viewer messages. >> >> For completeness: The most recent disks that I have had the problem >> were Seagate ST31500341AS drives various part numbers and firmware. >> However, I don't think that the hang is due to the particular model >> disk. I have had the problem with other model SATA drives from >> Seagate and Western Digital.
From: juliusseizure on 25 Jan 2009 11:52
soz ger. much appreciate ur reply but like i said "help" dont help every time i hit "new" >"question" all i get is a bleep.will check out event viewer tho tx "Gerry" wrote: > Julius > > Read this link so that you do not need to piggy back next time: > http://www.microsoft.com/wn3/locales/help/help_en-us.htm#PostNewQuestion > > What are your ant-virus and anti-spyware arrangements? > > Are there any errors in Event Viewer? Have a look in the System and > Application logs in Event Viewer for Errors and Warnings and post copies > here. Don't post any more than 48hours ago. > > You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel, > Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the meaning of > the error, information regarding Event ID, Source and Description are > important. > > HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows XP > > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-usA > > A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and double > click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which appears is a > button resembling two pages. Click the button and close Event Viewer. > Now start your message (email) and do a paste into the body of the > message. Make sure this is the first paste after exiting from Event > Viewer. > > -- > > > > Hope this helps. > > Gerry > ~~~~ > FCA > Stourport, England > Enquire, plan and execute > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > juliusseizure wrote: > > sorry bout this but this site wont let me post new topic and "help" > > doesnt. so im piggy backing on this post..do forgive. my pc v.often > > wont boot its driving me nuts, the green light at the front of my > > pc"startup button" flashes sometimes up to an hour before it stops > > and i can then press the startup buttonand it boots no prob. any help > > gratefully appreciated. > > > > "Mark F" wrote: > > > >> I am running Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 3, 1GB RAM, > >> EIDE system disk. > >> > >> I find that my system hangs when a data disk has an error, temporary > >> or permanent, that requires extensive data recovery. > >> > >> My system and usual data disks are motherboard EIDE ports. > >> > >> The disks with errors are on a PCI SATA adapter. > >> > >> In particular, I use disks for backups and I "burn-in" the new disks > >> by writing random data to them and then reading them. Typically > >> there are one or two errors during the write pass that cause the > >> system to hang for at least a minute. Sometimes there is a Event > >> Viewer > >> Error Event ID: 9 message with Description: > >> "The device, \Device\Scsi\SI3114r1, did not respond within the > >> timeout period." > >> If I get the Event ID: 9 message there are also some Event ID: 51 > >> Warning messages with description "An error was detected on device > >> \Device\HarddiskX\Y during a paging operation. > >> If I move the mouse > >> around or otherwise get impatient I can also some Event ID: 12, > >> Information, with description > >> "The ring buffer that stores incoming mouse data has overflowed > >> [buffer size is configurable via the PS/2 mouse properties in device > >> manager]." > >> > >> My problem is not that there are errors on the disk, but rather that > >> the entire system seems to hang during the error recovery. > >> > >> There also can be hangs that don't give any Event Viewer messages; > >> I assume that this is because although there was a problem on the > >> SATA disk under test, the problem was fixed in times noticeable by > >> a human, but not so long as to get a recordable timeout error. > >> > >> Is there a way that I can change my system configuration so > >> only processes doing operations on the disk doing error recovery > >> are delayed? It doesn't seem right that the entire system hangs, > >> given that the system disk, which is the paging disk, are on a > >> motherboard adapter for a different interface (PATA, not SATA, in > >> this case.) > >> > >> Alternatively, is there a way to reduce the timeout time so that > >> I can get more Event Viewer messages. > >> > >> For completeness: The most recent disks that I have had the problem > >> were Seagate ST31500341AS drives various part numbers and firmware. > >> However, I don't think that the hang is due to the particular model > >> disk. I have had the problem with other model SATA drives from > >> Seagate and Western Digital. > > > |