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From: Daave on 25 Jul 2010 21:53 Do you run ZoneAlarm by any chance? Bobbi wrote: > Hi, PA Bear- > That's what I would have guessed if my system automatically > downloaded and installed updates but it doesn't. It's set to notify > only, and I download and install them only after I check them out, > which is definitely not as often as these restore points appear. > -Bobbi > > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:%238cEe3ALLHA.1996(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> A restore point of that name is created whenever you install a >> Windows Update. >> >> Bobbi wrote: >>> My system is creating restore points labelled "Software Distribution >>> Service >>> 3.0". How can I find out what that is? I don't think it's my >>> security software downloading updates because the time doesn't >>> correspond to the time >>> of today's update, and my system updates aren't installed >>> automatically. Bobbi Gold
From: Bill in Co on 25 Jul 2010 23:23 RT wrote: > "Bill in Co" <surly_curmudgeon(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:-eGdnW89QOwVAdHRnZ2dnUVZ_uednZ2d(a)earthlink.com... >> Peter wrote: >>> On 07/25/2010 08:57 PM, RT wrote: >>>> The trouble with the way System Restore works is that eventually the >>>> early ones get overwritten :-(( >>>> >>>> Is there any way of keeping a few really good ones? >>>> e.g. after a clean reinstall and a day or six of putting software back >>>> on and getting it all set up hunky dory? >>>> >>>> Is there a way of increasing the amount of room allocated, apart from >>>> the one offered? >>>> (I have a spare 80 gig drive that I would happily devote to restore >>>> points if it meant that I could keep them all. >>>> >>>> RT >>> >>> You should check out imaging your install. Win 7 comes with it built-in >>> and there are programs like Acronis for XP. Restore points are a way to >>> keep XP hobbling until you have the time to clean install it. You could >>> use your spare 80 gig drive to store images. I would put it in an >>> external case and connect via USB rather than slave it. >>> >>> -- >>> Peter >> >> Agreed - this is a much better idea, and the only real way to have >> perfect >> system backups (and/or disk cloning). Storing a large collection of >> System Restore points for that purpose wasn't the intended design of >> System Restore, nor is it as complete or incident free, either. >> >> I use a backup drive to store several generational images of my C: >> partition, which I create using Acronis True Image. The only >> disadvantage >> of this approach is that the backup images are naturally larger than just >> system restore points, of course, because they backup the entire >> partition, but that is also their advantage (i.e., perfect restoration >> capability) > > Hellfire!!! > My C drive is already heaving with 65 gig of used space..... THAT is a LOT!! You must have a bunch of other stuff on that partition (like music and video and photo files), which don't have to be there. If so, you could move all of those to another partition. My C: partition, after all these years, is currently at about 20 GB (used for windows and programs, and most of the regular user data, but NOT the large stuff I mentioned above). > OK I'm apparently doing it all wrong. > > I should nave kept drive/partition C for the operating system and had all > my > added software elsewhere, is that right? Not really, IMO. It's best to install the programs on the same C: partition as windows, and keep that part (windows and programs) all together, so that when you do a backup and restore operation, you can get it ALL back - completely intact. (a lot of the program and windows data is, by design, stored in the C:\Program Files and the \Application Data directories, and it makes sense to keep it that way, for a successful backup and restore operation, if needed. However, for stuff like large music and video and photo files, etc, there is no such need. And by removing that and splitting it up this way, I'd be surprised if your C: partition would be have more than 20 GB of actual data. > How can I rectify this, assuming that this is the way to go? > I cant face _another_ reinstall, less than 4 weeks after the last one. > > I am using XP Pro BTW. > > RT Well, if you've stored everything on C: and can't just move some huge video and photo files out to another partition to greatly reduce what's on C:, short of a reinstall, I don't see another great option. Except, perhaps, to use ERUNT, which can back up (and restore) just the windows registry (so it's not even as complete as System Restore). You can google ERUNT if that sounds interesting, but it's still only a halfway measure.
From: Bobbi on 27 Jul 2010 12:12 No, no Zone Alarm. And do these automatic restore points get generated BEFORE the updates are (supposedly) installed or after? -Bobbi "Daave" <daave(a)example.com> wrote in message news:%23K0dLVGLLHA.6128(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > Do you run ZoneAlarm by any chance? > > Bobbi wrote: >> Hi, PA Bear- >> That's what I would have guessed if my system automatically >> downloaded and installed updates but it doesn't. It's set to notify >> only, and I download and install them only after I check them out, >> which is definitely not as often as these restore points appear. >> -Bobbi >> >> >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:%238cEe3ALLHA.1996(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> A restore point of that name is created whenever you install a >>> Windows Update. >>> >>> Bobbi wrote: >>>> My system is creating restore points labelled "Software Distribution >>>> Service >>>> 3.0". How can I find out what that is? I don't think it's my >>>> security software downloading updates because the time doesn't >>>> correspond to the time >>>> of today's update, and my system updates aren't installed >>>> automatically. Bobbi Gold > >
From: Daave on 27 Jul 2010 20:30 Bobbi wrote: > do these automatic restore points get generated BEFORE the > updates are (supposedly) installed or after? The Software Distribution Service 3.0 RP is the last one (i.e., most recent) in the list. I doubt another RP is immediately generated. At least, that's my understanding. :-)
From: Bobbi on 28 Jul 2010 17:45
Well, I have a couple of weeks of restore points (one per day) all labelled Software Distribution Service 3.0. I have not done any windows updates during that time except for MS Security Essentials once. Could it be that all these restore points are being caused by MSE doing its daily updates? -Bobbi. "Daave" <daave(a)example.com> wrote in message news:uKshRweLLHA.3496(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Bobbi wrote: > >> do these automatic restore points get generated BEFORE the >> updates are (supposedly) installed or after? > > The Software Distribution Service 3.0 RP is the last one (i.e., most > recent) in the list. I doubt another RP is immediately generated. At > least, that's my understanding. :-) > |