From: SC Tom on 27 Feb 2010 08:20 ** replies in-line. "eli" <someone(a)somebody.com> wrote in message news:eSauhFztKHA.5940(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Sc Tom writes: > > "From first hand experience, any AV/AS software > should be shut down/disabled before running System Restore" > > > Thanks Tom. The odd thing is that even when I had Zone Alarm Suite NOT to > load at startup and then rebooted, SR didnt work. I had to totally > uninstal it . Or revert to a much earlier vesrion of it. So it seems that > componenets of the ZASS continue interefering with SR even when disabled. ** That's one of the reasons I like the command prompt method. Plus I don't have worry about a connection to the net, or climb around behind everything to pull a cable. > > If what you say is true, it might not make much of a difference switching > to a different security product, since its hard to say beforehand waht > that one will do to SR. If simply disabling were enough, it wouldnt be an > incoveneience. > > Running SR in Safe Mode has the drawback that the option to Undo Restore > doesnt happen when you do it that way. ** This is true, but if I've gotten to the point that I feel the need to use SR, but not to the point of having to restore from an image, that's a very minor drawback, IMO. > > Thank again: > > -eli You're entirely welcome! -- SC Tom > > ======================================== > "Questor" <Questor(a)minimoe.com> wrote in message > news:e6SdazytKHA.3360(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >> Tom: Could you please give an example of the command line entry? I'd >> like to restore one of my computers but can't find the correct command. >> >> Questor >> >> ---> >>> Most 3rd party firewalls and AV/AS software will affect SR. I also run >>> ZASS, so if you do the restore from safe mode with command prompt, you >>> don't have to uninstall ZASS first. From first hand experience, any >>> AV/AS software should be shut down/disabled before running System >>> Restore. Much easier just to boot into SM w/CP and do it from there. >> > >
From: eli on 27 Feb 2010 19:06 Hello again: I now find that when I do a system restore in Safe Mode, the PCwont reboot. WhenII force it to by manually shutting it and restarting it, it'll go back into SafeMode. The only way I can somehow get it to go back into Normal Mode is to do ANOTHER system restore in Safe Mode to yet an earleir time..say a day ago. This SR operation takes much longer than usual. But, it'll then reboot into normal mode. I can run a system restore in Normal Mode [Now that I've downgraded my ZASS to an earlier version], but I get stuck But if try SR in Safe Mode, the PC wont reboot normally. What might be causing this? Thanks in advance: -Eli Windows XP Professional Edition SP3 Zone Alarm Security Suite 7.0..483.000 ======================================================== An "SC Tom" <sc(a)tom.net> wrote in message news:OJAqR%236tKHA.5384(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > ** replies in-line. > > "eli" <someone(a)somebody.com> wrote in message > news:eSauhFztKHA.5940(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Sc Tom writes: >> >> "From first hand experience, any AV/AS software >> should be shut down/disabled before running System Restore" >> >> >> Thanks Tom. The odd thing is that even when I had Zone Alarm Suite NOT to >> load at startup and then rebooted, SR didnt work. I had to totally >> uninstal it . Or revert to a much earlier vesrion of it. So it seems that >> componenets of the ZASS continue interefering with SR even when disabled. > > ** That's one of the reasons I like the command prompt method. Plus I > don't have worry about a connection to the net, or climb around behind > everything to pull a cable. > >> >> If what you say is true, it might not make much of a difference switching >> to a different security product, since its hard to say beforehand waht >> that one will do to SR. If simply disabling were enough, it wouldnt be an >> incoveneience. >> >> Running SR in Safe Mode has the drawback that the option to Undo Restore >> doesnt happen when you do it that way. > > ** This is true, but if I've gotten to the point that I feel the need to > use SR, but not to the point of having to restore from an image, that's a > very minor drawback, IMO. > >> >> Thank again: >> >> -eli > > You're entirely welcome! > -- > SC Tom > > > >> >> ======================================== >> "Questor" <Questor(a)minimoe.com> wrote in message >> news:e6SdazytKHA.3360(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>> Tom: Could you please give an example of the command line entry? I'd >>> like to restore one of my computers but can't find the correct command. >>> >>> Questor >>> >>> ---> >>>> Most 3rd party firewalls and AV/AS software will affect SR. I also run >>>> ZASS, so if you do the restore from safe mode with command prompt, you >>>> don't have to uninstall ZASS first. From first hand experience, any >>>> AV/AS software should be shut down/disabled before running System >>>> Restore. Much easier just to boot into SM w/CP and do it from there. >>> >> >> >
From: SC Tom on 27 Feb 2010 20:17 I've never run into that problem. Have you checked for malware residing on your PC? That situation certainly doesn't sound like a common or normal occurrence. You might want to consider downloading and MalwareBytes and SuperAntiSpyware. -- SC Tom "eli" <someone(a)somebody.com> wrote in message news:uiabPnAuKHA.2072(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Hello again: > > I now find that when I do a system restore in Safe Mode, the PCwont > reboot. WhenII force it to by manually shutting it and restarting it, > it'll go back into SafeMode. The only way I can somehow get it to go back > into Normal Mode is to do ANOTHER system restore in Safe Mode to yet an > earleir time..say a day ago. This SR operation takes much longer than > usual. But, it'll then reboot into normal mode. > > I can run a system restore in Normal Mode [Now that I've downgraded my > ZASS to an earlier version], but I get stuck But if try SR in Safe Mode, > the PC wont reboot normally. > > What might be causing this? > > Thanks in advance: > > -Eli > > Windows XP Professional Edition SP3 > Zone Alarm Security Suite 7.0..483.000 > > ======================================================== > > > An > "SC Tom" <sc(a)tom.net> wrote in message > news:OJAqR%236tKHA.5384(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> ** replies in-line. >> >> "eli" <someone(a)somebody.com> wrote in message >> news:eSauhFztKHA.5940(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Sc Tom writes: >>> >>> "From first hand experience, any AV/AS software >>> should be shut down/disabled before running System Restore" >>> >>> >>> Thanks Tom. The odd thing is that even when I had Zone Alarm Suite NOT >>> to load at startup and then rebooted, SR didnt work. I had to totally >>> uninstal it . Or revert to a much earlier vesrion of it. So it seems >>> that componenets of the ZASS continue interefering with SR even when >>> disabled. >> >> ** That's one of the reasons I like the command prompt method. Plus I >> don't have worry about a connection to the net, or climb around behind >> everything to pull a cable. >> >>> >>> If what you say is true, it might not make much of a difference >>> switching to a different security product, since its hard to say >>> beforehand waht that one will do to SR. If simply disabling were enough, >>> it wouldnt be an incoveneience. >>> >>> Running SR in Safe Mode has the drawback that the option to Undo >>> Restore doesnt happen when you do it that way. >> >> ** This is true, but if I've gotten to the point that I feel the need to >> use SR, but not to the point of having to restore from an image, that's a >> very minor drawback, IMO. >> >>> >>> Thank again: >>> >>> -eli >> >> You're entirely welcome! >> -- >> SC Tom >> >> >> >>> >>> ======================================== >>> "Questor" <Questor(a)minimoe.com> wrote in message >>> news:e6SdazytKHA.3360(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>> Tom: Could you please give an example of the command line entry? I'd >>>> like to restore one of my computers but can't find the correct command. >>>> >>>> Questor >>>> >>>> ---> >>>>> Most 3rd party firewalls and AV/AS software will affect SR. I also run >>>>> ZASS, so if you do the restore from safe mode with command prompt, you >>>>> don't have to uninstall ZASS first. From first hand experience, any >>>>> AV/AS software should be shut down/disabled before running System >>>>> Restore. Much easier just to boot into SM w/CP and do it from there. >>>> >>> >>> >> > >
From: eli on 28 Feb 2010 00:15
Hi again: Scanned with both SuperAntiSpyware and MalwareBytes. Nothing found. Ran a complete AVscan as well yesterday. Nothing found either. -Eli ================================== "SC Tom" <sc(a)tom.net> wrote in message news:eKZ4WPBuKHA.4624(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > I've never run into that problem. Have you checked for malware residing on > your PC? That situation certainly doesn't sound like a common or normal > occurrence. You might want to consider downloading and MalwareBytes and > SuperAntiSpyware. > -- > SC Tom > > > "eli" <someone(a)somebody.com> wrote in message > news:uiabPnAuKHA.2072(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Hello again: >> >> I now find that when I do a system restore in Safe Mode, the PCwont >> reboot. WhenII force it to by manually shutting it and restarting it, >> it'll go back into SafeMode. The only way I can somehow get it to go >> back into Normal Mode is to do ANOTHER system restore in Safe Mode to yet >> an earleir time..say a day ago. This SR operation takes much longer than >> usual. But, it'll then reboot into normal mode. >> >> I can run a system restore in Normal Mode [Now that I've downgraded my >> ZASS to an earlier version], but I get stuck But if try SR in Safe Mode, >> the PC wont reboot normally. >> >> What might be causing this? >> >> Thanks in advance: >> >> -Eli >> >> Windows XP Professional Edition SP3 >> Zone Alarm Security Suite 7.0..483.000 >> >> ======================================================== >> >> >> An >> "SC Tom" <sc(a)tom.net> wrote in message >> news:OJAqR%236tKHA.5384(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> ** replies in-line. >>> >>> "eli" <someone(a)somebody.com> wrote in message >>> news:eSauhFztKHA.5940(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>> Sc Tom writes: >>>> >>>> "From first hand experience, any AV/AS software >>>> should be shut down/disabled before running System Restore" >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks Tom. The odd thing is that even when I had Zone Alarm Suite NOT >>>> to load at startup and then rebooted, SR didnt work. I had to totally >>>> uninstal it . Or revert to a much earlier vesrion of it. So it seems >>>> that componenets of the ZASS continue interefering with SR even when >>>> disabled. >>> >>> ** That's one of the reasons I like the command prompt method. Plus I >>> don't have worry about a connection to the net, or climb around behind >>> everything to pull a cable. >>> >>>> >>>> If what you say is true, it might not make much of a difference >>>> switching to a different security product, since its hard to say >>>> beforehand waht that one will do to SR. If simply disabling were >>>> enough, it wouldnt be an incoveneience. >>>> >>>> Running SR in Safe Mode has the drawback that the option to Undo >>>> Restore doesnt happen when you do it that way. >>> >>> ** This is true, but if I've gotten to the point that I feel the need to >>> use SR, but not to the point of having to restore from an image, that's >>> a very minor drawback, IMO. >>> >>>> >>>> Thank again: >>>> >>>> -eli >>> >>> You're entirely welcome! >>> -- >>> SC Tom >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> ======================================== >>>> "Questor" <Questor(a)minimoe.com> wrote in message >>>> news:e6SdazytKHA.3360(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>> Tom: Could you please give an example of the command line entry? I'd >>>>> like to restore one of my computers but can't find the correct >>>>> command. >>>>> >>>>> Questor >>>>> >>>>> ---> >>>>>> Most 3rd party firewalls and AV/AS software will affect SR. I also >>>>>> run >>>>>> ZASS, so if you do the restore from safe mode with command prompt, >>>>>> you >>>>>> don't have to uninstall ZASS first. From first hand experience, any >>>>>> AV/AS software should be shut down/disabled before running System >>>>>> Restore. Much easier just to boot into SM w/CP and do it from there. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> |