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From: KristleBawl on 2 Jun 2010 10:23
Craig expressed an opinion:
> Dunno who 'rkent' is in the Moz Messaging pecking order but it looks
> like TBird is in for some big "rethinking."
>
>> I don�t believe that Mozilla�s subsidization of Thunderbird can
>> continue indefinitely. Perhaps that was possible for awhile, but
>> Mozilla�s bundle can be expected to come under continual
>> competitive attack, which will eventually force them to marshall
>> the resources needed to defend the bundle. Mozilla Messaging and
>> Thunderbird need to be part of the solution, and not just a cost
>> drag, when the tough decisions are being made to defend the
>> bundle.

It's called Seamonkey.

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From: Craig on 2 Jun 2010 16:51
On 06/02/2010 07:23 AM, KristleBawl wrote:
> Craig expressed an opinion:
>> Dunno who 'rkent' is in the Moz Messaging pecking order but it looks
>> like TBird is in for some big "rethinking."
>>
>>> I don�t believe that Mozilla�s subsidization of Thunderbird can
>>> continue indefinitely. Perhaps that was possible for awhile, but
>>> Mozilla�s bundle can be expected to come under continual
>>> competitive attack, which will eventually force them to marshall
>>> the resources needed to defend the bundle. Mozilla Messaging and
>>> Thunderbird need to be part of the solution, and not just a cost
>>> drag, when the tough decisions are being made to defend the
>>> bundle.
>
> It's called Seamonkey.

He actually addresses that in the post. In his opinion, it ain't seamonkey.

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From: Mike Easter on 2 Jun 2010 17:47
Craig wrote:
> Dunno who 'rkent' is in the Moz Messaging pecking order but it looks
> like TBird is in for some big "rethinking."

rkent is Kent James -- an extension developer. When he posts to the moz
developer group he is Kent James - addy: kent <at> caspia dot com

Extensions: JunQuilla, FiltaQuilla, TaQuilla, ToneQuilla, GlodaQuilla
http://mesquilla.com/extensions/

> <http://mesquilla.com/2010/06/01/lessons-from-google-thunderbird-as-a-firefox-extension/>

I don't agree at all with where he is trying to go in the blog article,
while I do agree with several comments who disagreed with him.

I do agree that Tbird has a big big problem in that since 2008 it has
been subsidized as Moz Messaging and that its development is highly
dependent upon being fed by Firefox via that channel and that when the -
Fx's - monetization problems can't be solved any other way, that Tbird's
support will disappear by severely dwindling.

To me, it doesn't look like Tbird's development is going well since
mozmessage; with serious regressions between Tbirds 2 and 3 and what I
would consider the utter failure of the Eudora/Penelope project.

About the best thing you can say about Tbird is that is better than OE
as a mailnews client - which is actually a lot, since OE maintained a
great deal of popularity in spite of being a severely flawed agent even
when supported by numerous 3rd party tools to make up for its
deficiencies, such as yProxy, Nfilter, OE QuoteFix, and SpamPal.


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