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From: Jim Aksel on 1 Feb 2010 01:42 Data Exchange between most programs and Project is not very good. What I see happening is that the "other" program reads/writes to project by writing dates instead of predecessors and successors. So, what I see in some programs is it just writes to an mpp (proejct) file by writing to the start date. This automatically creates a Start No Earlier Than constraint. We once starting writing some code to "undo" this mess with another scheduling software program, but were unable to complete it becuase of a contractual issue with the supplier. So, it can be done, just takes some code and a clean schedule. -- If this post was helpful, please consider rating it. Jim Aksel, MVP Check out my blog for more information: http://www.msprojectblog.com "Natasha" wrote: > > > > > Dependencies do not cause constraints. Are there any macros that run.. automatically on save or open? > > How would I know? I am using this through an Integration with > Clarity, so I actually open up my plan through Clarity > > > Does anyone else access the plan? > > No > > > Does this happen for all files or just this one? > > It appears to happent to some files... still investigating > > > Is Project Server involved, if so which version? > > > I don't believe so, I am working on a corporate network. > > > > > Rod Gill > > Microsoft MVP for Project -http://www.project-systems.co.nz > > > > Author of the only book on Project VBA, see:http://www.projectvbabook.com > > > > "Natasha" <ng...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > > news:83be0376-88a8-4b95-9b7f-24d69514788d(a)k5g2000pra.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > > > > > > > I currently have a project plan, due to company policies, where all > > > tasks are set to begin as soon as possible and have a predecessor w/no > > > contraints. My problem is some of my tasks still have contraints > > > (Start no Earlier) now matter how many times I reset these defaults. > > > When I reopen the plan the contraints are back. My question is do > > > dependencies cause contraints? How will I know if that is the case? > > > > > Thank you for all your help > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > > > signature database 4818 (20100129) __________ > > > > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > > > >http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4818 (20100129) __________ > > > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > > > http://www.eset.com- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > . >
From: Natasha on 1 Feb 2010 15:28 On 1 Feb, 01:42, Jim Aksel <JimAk...(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: > Data Exchange between most programs and Project is not very good. What I > see happening is that the "other" program reads/writes to project by writing > dates instead of predecessors and successors. > > So, what I see in some programs is it just writes to an mpp (proejct) file > by writing to the start date. This automatically creates a Start No Earlier > Than constraint. > > We once starting writing some code to "undo" this mess with another > scheduling software program, but were unable to complete it becuase of a > contractual issue with the supplier. So, it can be done, just takes some > code and a clean schedule. > -- > If this post was helpful, please consider rating it. > > Jim Aksel, MVP > > Check out my blog for more information:http://www.msprojectblog.com > > > > "Natasha" wrote: > > > > Dependencies do not cause constraints. Are there any macros that run... automatically on save or open? > > > How would I know? I am using this through an Integration with > > Clarity, so I actually open up my plan through Clarity > > > > Does anyone else access the plan? > > > No > > > > Does this happen for all files or just this one? > > > It appears to happent to some files... still investigating > > > > Is Project Server involved, if so which version? > > > I don't believe so, I am working on a corporate network. > > > > Rod Gill > > > Microsoft MVP for Project -http://www.project-systems.co.nz > > > > Author of the only book on Project VBA, see:http://www.projectvbabook..com > > > > "Natasha" <ng...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > > > >news:83be0376-88a8-4b95-9b7f-24d69514788d(a)k5g2000pra.googlegroups.com.... > > > > > I currently have a project plan, due to company policies, where all > > > > tasks are set to begin as soon as possible and have a predecessor w/no > > > >contraints. My problem is some of my tasks still havecontraints > > > > (Start no Earlier) now matter how many times I reset these defaults.. > > > > When I reopen the plan thecontraintsare back. My question is do > > > > dependencies causecontraints? How will I know if that is the case? > > > > > Thank you for all your help > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > > > > signature database 4818 (20100129) __________ > > > > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > > > >http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4818 (20100129) __________ > > > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > > >http://www.eset.com-Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > .- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Hey Trevor, Thanks for your response. Unfortunately I can not sent a copy as the information in the plan is HIGHLY confidential. I am actually perfoming a compliance review on someone else's plan and company policy restricts the number of contraints a project plan has. I hadn't thought about the "dragging the bars on the Gantt Chart"... I'll have to follow up on that one.
From: Rob Schneider on 2 Feb 2010 02:23
What is the logic for having a *policy* about the number of constraints? Policy wonks have run amok!. (A Best Practice is to not use constraints at all in a schedule unless there is a very good reason. Build up the project model with unconstrained tasks linked with logical successors and predecessors that reflect reality and the project plan). --rms www.rmschneider.com On 01/02/10 20:28, Natasha wrote: > On 1 Feb, 01:42, Jim Aksel<JimAk...(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote: >> Data Exchange between most programs and Project is not very good. What I >> see happening is that the "other" program reads/writes to project by writing >> dates instead of predecessors and successors. >> >> So, what I see in some programs is it just writes to an mpp (proejct) file >> by writing to the start date. This automatically creates a Start No Earlier >> Than constraint. >> >> We once starting writing some code to "undo" this mess with another >> scheduling software program, but were unable to complete it becuase of a >> contractual issue with the supplier. So, it can be done, just takes some >> code and a clean schedule. >> -- >> If this post was helpful, please consider rating it. >> >> Jim Aksel, MVP >> >> Check out my blog for more information:http://www.msprojectblog.com >> >> >> >> "Natasha" wrote: >> >>>> Dependencies do not cause constraints. Are there any macros that run... automatically on save or open? >> >>> How would I know? I am using this through an Integration with >>> Clarity, so I actually open up my plan through Clarity >> >>>> Does anyone else access the plan? >> >>> No >> >>>> Does this happen for all files or just this one? >> >>> It appears to happent to some files... still investigating >> >>>> Is Project Server involved, if so which version? >> >>> I don't believe so, I am working on a corporate network. >> >>>> Rod Gill >>>> Microsoft MVP for Project -http://www.project-systems.co.nz >> >>>> Author of the only book on Project VBA, see:http://www.projectvbabook..com >> >>>> "Natasha"<ng...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >> >>>> news:83be0376-88a8-4b95-9b7f-24d69514788d(a)k5g2000pra.googlegroups.com.... >> >>>>> I currently have a project plan, due to company policies, where all >>>>> tasks are set to begin as soon as possible and have a predecessor w/no >>>>> contraints. My problem is some of my tasks still havecontraints >>>>> (Start no Earlier) now matter how many times I reset these defaults.. >>>>> When I reopen the plan thecontraintsare back. My question is do >>>>> dependencies causecontraints? How will I know if that is the case? >> >>>>> Thank you for all your help >> >>>>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >>>>> signature database 4818 (20100129) __________ >> >>>>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >>>>> http://www.eset.com >> >>>> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4818 (20100129) __________ >> >>>> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >>>> http://www.eset.com-Hide quoted text - >> >>>> - Show quoted text - >> >>> .- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Hey Trevor, > > Thanks for your response. Unfortunately I can not sent a copy as the > information in the plan is HIGHLY confidential. I am actually > perfoming a compliance review on someone else's plan and company > policy restricts the number of contraints a project plan has. I > hadn't thought about the "dragging the bars on the Gantt Chart"... > I'll have to follow up on that one. |