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From: Beyond X on 12 Jul 2010 22:57
If you meant to tinker settings in device manager, I don't know how I
can change the resolution numbers (aspect ratio). I just had believed
that resolution numbers were predetermined at the hardware desin stage,
that is, I did not know they can be changed by software (drivers) that
can be downloaded afterwards.
Beyond X

Unknown wrote:
> What happens when you manually try to update?
> "Beyond X" <donotmail(a)nomail.com> wrote in message
> news:4C3B7D3F.7070000(a)nomail.com...
>
>>Thanks a lot for information.
>>My video card is Diamond Radeon HD4350 PCIe (512MB) which I purchased very
>>recently and which offers several resolutions but the aspect ratio is all
>>4:3.
>>I ended up to install a fresh copy of XP in a new partition. For the
>>videocard, I downloaded newer drivers, which indeed offered several
>>resolutions corresponding to aspect ratio 16:9. Also I have the taskbar at
>>its normal position (bottom of the screen) even with the highest
>>resolution.
>>Only problem I still have is this: My XP is SP2 and I am unable to upgrade
>>to SP3 even though automatic update has been on. What am I missing?
>>Thanks again to all folks from the bottom of my heart.
>>BeyondX
>>
>>
>>I thought that the aspect ratios were a design character of individual
>>cards (hardware) and that the design of such a new card must have
>>considered wide screen monitors like mine until I learned from you that it
>>is changeable by drivers (software). So I was encouraged and visited
>>Diamond's website and attempted to update drivers for this
>>particular card.
>>
>>Beyond X wrote:
>>
>>>As known by many, LCD wide screen monitors show horizontally distorted
>>>images (a circle appears as an ellipse). I got Samsung SyncMaster 2333
>>>(23"diagonal) in my WinXP computer mainly used for photo editing. Annoyed
>>>with horrible pictures, I had to raise its resolution to the highest,
>>>1920x1440, which is beyond my eyes' comfort but improves the aspect ratio
>>>significantly. The problem that I now face is disappearance of the
>>>Window's taskbar. I raised the screen's vertical position as high as
>>>possible, but it does not make the taskbar reappear.
>>>(If I lower the monitor's resolution to or below 1600x1200, the taskbar
>>>reappears, but the images are distorted.)
>>>Can anyone help me?
>
>
>
From: Beyond X on 12 Jul 2010 23:20
Thanks for detailed explanation and educational instruction. Although I
solved my problem by downloading updated drivers, your response
enlightened my understanding how display works.
Beyond X

Paul wrote:
> Beyond X wrote:
>
>> Thanks a lot for information.
>> My video card is Diamond Radeon HD4350 PCIe (512MB) which I purchased
>> very recently and which offers several resolutions but the aspect
>> ratio is all 4:3.
>> I ended up to install a fresh copy of XP in a new partition. For the
>> videocard, I downloaded newer drivers, which indeed offered several
>> resolutions corresponding to aspect ratio 16:9. Also I have the
>> taskbar at its normal position (bottom of the screen) even with the
>> highest resolution.
>> Only problem I still have is this: My XP is SP2 and I am unable to
>> upgrade to SP3 even though automatic update has been on. What am I
>> missing?
>> Thanks again to all folks from the bottom of my heart.
>> BeyondX
>>
>>
>> I thought that the aspect ratios were a design character of individual
>> cards (hardware) and that the design of such a new card must have
>> considered wide screen monitors like mine until I learned from you
>> that it is changeable by drivers (software). So I was encouraged and
>> visited Diamond's website and attempted to update drivers for
>> this particular card.
>>
>
> The video resolution is fully programmable, to arbitrary X and Y.
> Typical rules are, the X value must be divisible by 8, and the
> Y value must be divisible by 2. The driver normally does the programming
> of this, but there are other options.
>
> If the driver does not support the correct resolution, you have two
> options.
>
> 1) Sometimes, the display control panel has a "custom resolution" box,
> where you can add a new value.
>
> 2) You can use Powerstrip from entechtaiwan.com .
>
> http://www.entechtaiwan.com/util/ps.shtm
>
> 3) Using a new driver (which worked for you).
>
> If the monitor is 16:9, then for a circle to be a circle,
> the video card resolution choice must also be in a ratio of
> 16:9.
>
> In some cases, the X_offset and Y_offset values for
> the video image, need to be adjusted, for the image to be
> centered on the monitor screen. As an example, if I boot
> a Linux CD, the image is offset a bit from the proper
> position. The clock in the corner of the screen, isn't fully
> visible, because of the offset error. If I install the
> Nvidia Linux (tainted) driver, the offsets to the edges
> of the screen are perfect. The display control panel
> of an OS, may also offer adjustments for positional offset.
>
> For weird resolution choices, sometimes the video card
> will fill unused regions with "black bars", and there
> may be an option such as "preserve aspect ratio" or the like.
> I don't recommend such a setting - on my computer here,
> that resulted in the LCD monitor on-screen display reporting
> "out of range" for the video output, so no image at all was
> rendered. YMMV.
>
> Paul
From: Beyond X on 13 Jul 2010 00:58
Thank you very much for advice.
This problem of mine automatically solved when I installed a fresh copy
of WinXP followed by downloading updated video drivers. I do not know
and cannot say what was wrong in the previous settings. But I tried
three different DVI cables in vain, so I do not think it was defective
cables.
I still am unable to upgrade from SP2 to SP3 despite repeated reboots
with automatic update turned on.

Robert Kochem wrote:
> Beyond X wrote:
>
>
>>Thanks for suggestion. This brings up another problem I have to ask for
>>a solution about. For unknown reason(s) the DVI-I or DVI-D connection
>>does not work in my system, that is, when connection to the monitor is
>>switched to DVI, the monitor shows blank/black screen as if a monitor is
>>not connected to the computer (WinXP Home SP2).
>
>
> May be the DVI cable is defect or your Monitor misinterprets the signal. My
> old graphics card used to send a signal with a refresh rate of ~59.9999Hz.
> If screws on the DVI connectors were not 100% tighten the Monitor did not
> display anything because the minimum refresh rate supported is 60Hz...
>
> Robert
From: Bob I on 13 Jul 2010 08:21


Beyond X wrote:
> Thank you very much for advice.
> This problem of mine automatically solved when I installed a fresh copy
> of WinXP followed by downloading updated video drivers. I do not know
> and cannot say what was wrong in the previous settings. But I tried
> three different DVI cables in vain, so I do not think it was defective
> cables.
> I still am unable to upgrade from SP2 to SP3 despite repeated reboots
> with automatic update turned on.
>

How to obtain the latest Windows XP service pack
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389

From: Unknown on 13 Jul 2010 09:43
What I meant by manually updating is:
Go to www.microsoft.com search for SP3 and download and install it.
"Beyond X" <donotmail(a)nomail.com> wrote in message
news:4C3BD62A.9010900(a)nomail.com...
> If you meant to tinker settings in device manager, I don't know how I can
> change the resolution numbers (aspect ratio). I just had believed that
> resolution numbers were predetermined at the hardware desin stage, that
> is, I did not know they can be changed by software (drivers) that can be
> downloaded afterwards.
> Beyond X
>
> Unknown wrote:
>> What happens when you manually try to update?
>> "Beyond X" <donotmail(a)nomail.com> wrote in message
>> news:4C3B7D3F.7070000(a)nomail.com...
>>
>>>Thanks a lot for information.
>>>My video card is Diamond Radeon HD4350 PCIe (512MB) which I purchased
>>>very recently and which offers several resolutions but the aspect ratio
>>>is all 4:3.
>>>I ended up to install a fresh copy of XP in a new partition. For the
>>>videocard, I downloaded newer drivers, which indeed offered several
>>>resolutions corresponding to aspect ratio 16:9. Also I have the taskbar
>>>at its normal position (bottom of the screen) even with the highest
>>>resolution.
>>>Only problem I still have is this: My XP is SP2 and I am unable to
>>>upgrade to SP3 even though automatic update has been on. What am I
>>>missing?
>>>Thanks again to all folks from the bottom of my heart.
>>>BeyondX
>>>
>>>
>>>I thought that the aspect ratios were a design character of individual
>>>cards (hardware) and that the design of such a new card must have
>>>considered wide screen monitors like mine until I learned from you that
>>>it is changeable by drivers (software). So I was encouraged and visited
>>>Diamond's website and attempted to update drivers for this
>>>particular card.
>>>
>>>Beyond X wrote:
>>>
>>>>As known by many, LCD wide screen monitors show horizontally distorted
>>>>images (a circle appears as an ellipse). I got Samsung SyncMaster 2333
>>>>(23"diagonal) in my WinXP computer mainly used for photo editing.
>>>>Annoyed with horrible pictures, I had to raise its resolution to the
>>>>highest, 1920x1440, which is beyond my eyes' comfort but improves the
>>>>aspect ratio significantly. The problem that I now face is disappearance
>>>>of the Window's taskbar. I raised the screen's vertical position as high
>>>>as possible, but it does not make the taskbar reappear.
>>>>(If I lower the monitor's resolution to or below 1600x1200, the taskbar
>>>>reappears, but the images are distorted.)
>>>>Can anyone help me?
>>
>>

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