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From: krw on 2 Apr 2010 18:48 On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 10:41:30 -0700 (PDT), contrex <mike.j.harvey(a)gmail.com> wrote: >John Tserkezis wrote: > >> ....and simply state you do not watch the BBC (which are the only >> channels legislated by these fees). > >This isn't true; watching ***any*** TV broadcast requires a TV licence >in the UK. Incidentally, one genuine exemption, foreign-language >satellite programming uplinked outside the UK was abolished in 2004. If the program was abolished six years ago, I guess it makes sense that no license would be required to receive it now.
From: contrex on 2 Apr 2010 19:32 krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: > On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 10:41:30 -0700 (PDT), contrex <mike.j.harvey(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > >John Tserkezis wrote: > > > >> ....and simply state you do not watch the BBC (which are the only > >> channels legislated by these fees). > > > >This isn't true; watching ***any*** TV broadcast requires a TV licence > >in the UK. Incidentally, one genuine exemption, foreign-language > >satellite programming uplinked outside the UK was abolished in 2004. > > If the program was abolished six years ago, I guess it makes sense that no > license would be required to receive it now. No "program" was abolished, an exemption was. (Is English not your first language?) Until 2004, UK residents were exempt from the need for a licence provided they only watched channels, from a non-EU country, via satellite, provided that the channels was uplinked to the satellite from outside the UK.
From: John Tserkezis on 2 Apr 2010 20:49 contrex wrote: >> ....and simply state you do not watch the BBC (which are the only >> channels legislated by these fees). > This isn't true; watching ***any*** TV broadcast requires a TV licence > in the UK. Incidentally, one genuine exemption, foreign-language > satellite programming uplinked outside the UK was abolished in 2004. Whoops, I stand corrected. I was under the impression it was similar to the Australian ABC issue, where the fees only paid for the ABC. Commercial channels were on their own as far as revenue raising was concerned.
From: krw on 2 Apr 2010 22:09 On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 16:32:59 -0700 (PDT), contrex <mike.j.harvey(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >> On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 10:41:30 -0700 (PDT), contrex <mike.j.harvey(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >John Tserkezis wrote: >> > >> >> ....and simply state you do not watch the BBC (which are the only >> >> channels legislated by these fees). >> > >> >This isn't true; watching ***any*** TV broadcast requires a TV licence >> >in the UK. Incidentally, one genuine exemption, foreign-language >> >satellite programming uplinked outside the UK was abolished in 2004. >> >> If the program was abolished six years ago, I guess it makes sense that no >> license would be required to receive it now. > >No "program" was abolished, an exemption was. (Is English not your >first language?) Yes, in fact it is. It's obviously not be yours, however. Hint: the independent clause doesn't modify the subordinate clause. In this case "abolished" doesn't modify "exemption", rather "programming". >Until 2004, UK residents were exempt from the need >for a licence provided they only watched channels, from a non-EU >country, via satellite, provided that the channels was uplinked to the >satellite from outside the UK. Then why didn't you say that (and I thought I used too many commas).
From: Frederick Williams on 28 Apr 2010 08:34
Frederick Williams wrote: > > John Tserkezis wrote: > > > > Frederick Williams wrote: > > > > >> If you really *don't* watch the BBC, good luck to you, you're going to > > >> have a fun time trying to prove it. > > > > > This hints at some misunderstandings. > > > > Does it? > > I'm going away for a few weeks, but I'll try to remember to reply when I > get back. It may be that I have misunderstood you, in which case I apologize, but just in case it's you who have misunderstood me I'll make these points: (i) In the UK one requires a licence to receive any TV broadcast, not just those of the BBC. (ii) I don't need to prove anything. If TV Licensing feels it needs to prove something let it try, the matter is of no interest to me. (iii) I asked about detecting the presence of a switched-off TV because it's just that which I was interested in. -- I can't go on, I'll go on. |