Telstra never throttled DSL1???
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From: Acacia on 28 Dec 2009 07:48 SG1 wrote: > "Dyna Soar" <dynasoar..REMOVE..THIS..(a)ozdebate.com> wrote in message > news:7prggpFkapU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> anm wrote: >>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 06:56:25 +1100, Rod Speed wrote: >> >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/aus.computers/msg/8a4c59939f38950e?hl=en >> >>>> I JUST said that you were lying when you claimed that the PRICE >>>> they were charging for DSL1 when it was still limited speed wise >>>> was nothing like 'charged an absolute fortune for it' >> >>>> $30 per month is nothing even remotely resembling an absolute >>>> fortune. >> >>> errr >>> sorry Rod >>> To some people, particularly retirees, $30 IS a lot!! >> >> Talk about twisting what is said! >> >> I'm a retiree. I agree, $30 is a lot, but it isn't an "absolute >> fortune" in the context used here. > > What did Helstra charge when they did the throttle? That is relevant > to the arguement not what they charge now. IMHO it's not about the price but the value. For value you have to compare plans and features, like shaping or excess charges, up and down speeds, how the data allowance is allocated and etc. http://www.telstra.com.au/abouttelstra/media/announcements_article.cfm?ObjectID=38597 10th November 2006 Telstra today delivered another important instalment in its "Plan for Australia" as BigPond unveiled its upgraded national high-speed broadband network, offering fixed-line ADSL speeds amongst the fastest in the world. The unveiling also marked the 10th anniversary of the launch of BigPond in November 1996. BigPond's Group Managing Director, Mr Justin Milne, said BigPond High Speed Broadband would deliver network speeds of either up to eight megabits per second (Mbps) or up to 20Mbps from exchanges offering ADSL2+ services. Because of regulatory constraints, the up to 20Mbps service would be limited to exchanges where competitors are also offering those higher speeds. "Telstra's commitment to delivering national high-speed broadband services is demonstrated by how we are investing our money. Because we've invested shareholder funds heavily in building out our high-speed network, we are now able to offer BigPond customers, across Australia, higher speed ADSL broadband services" Mr Milne said. "Additionally, we have introduced new 1.5Mbps BigPond plans, which are up to $30 per month cheaper. A customer on a 512kbps BigPond plan can elect to switch to an equivalent 1.5Mbps BigPond plan at no extra charge and benefit from a speed increase of around 300 per cent. BigPond ADSL Pricing effective 10 November 2006 Access speed / MB Allowance: Preselect Price 256kbps/200MB: $29.95 256pbps / BigPond Liberty1: $59.95 1500 kbps / 400MB: $39.95 1500 kbps / BigPond Liberty1: $69.95 1500 kbps / 25GB: $99.95 High speed2 / 600MB: $59.95 High speed2 / BigPond Liberty1: $89.95 High speed2 / 25GB: $119.95 High speed2 / 60GB : $149.95 1. Shaped download limit of 12GB 2. Up to 8Mbps for ADSL1 and up to 20Mbps for ADSL2+
From: Marts on 28 Dec 2009 14:56 annily wrote... > How does the article support that Telstra throttled DSL1? In fact it says: > > "In exchanges where no other competitors had installed equipment, > Telstra throttled the speeds to ADSL1 - with maximum connection speeds > of 8 megabits per second." > > So in effect, they throttled what should have been ADSL2+ speeds to > ADSL1 8000 kbps. > That seems to me to be quite different from your assertion. I read it differently. I also assumed that the reporter mangled it a bit, given that I've not heard of any DSL2+ DSLAM being throttled that way. Naturally that doesn't mean that Telstra hasn't done that. If it has, it still supports what I'm saying in that Telstra chooses to limit its services for no other reason than it can.
From: Rod Speed on 28 Dec 2009 16:25 SG1 wrote: > "Dyna Soar" <dynasoar..REMOVE..THIS..(a)ozdebate.com> wrote in message > news:7prggpFkapU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> anm wrote: >>> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 06:56:25 +1100, Rod Speed wrote: >> >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/aus.computers/msg/8a4c59939f38950e?hl=en >> >>>> I JUST said that you were lying when you claimed that the PRICE >>>> they were charging for DSL1 when it was still limited speed wise >>>> was nothing like 'charged an absolute fortune for it' >> >>>> $30 per month is nothing even remotely resembling an absolute >>>> fortune. >> >>> errr >>> sorry Rod >>> To some people, particularly retirees, $30 IS a lot!! >> >> Talk about twisting what is said! >> >> I'm a retiree. I agree, $30 is a lot, but it isn't an "absolute >> fortune" in the context used here. > > What did Helstra charge when they did the throttle? $30 per month, for a while only $15 per month with the half price first year etc. > That is relevant to the arguement not what they charge now. The minimum charge hasnt changed significantly in years now.
From: Marts on 29 Dec 2009 14:58 Acacia wrote... > BigPond ADSL Pricing effective 10 November 2006 Are these prices still current? I just tried to get onto the BP website but I keep getting errors. > High speed2 / 25GB: $119.95 I am on an ADSL2+ 20/20 gig plan. Uploads not counted. It costs me $69.95/mth.
From: Rod Speed on 29 Dec 2009 15:59
Marts wrote > Dyna Soar wrote >> Talk about twisting what is said! >> I'm a retiree. I agree, $30 is a lot, but it isn't an "absolute fortune" in the context used here. > The context was Telstra's overall pricing plans which were, and still are, expensive. In fact Telstra drove down the lowest priced DSL to levels below what their competitors were charging and they had to match those. > Perhaps "fortune" is hyperbole, No perhaps about it, $30/month is nothing even remotely resembling anything like an absolute fortune. It is in fact what a basic phone service costs. > but it's an expressive term to describe how expensive > Bigpond and Telstra services in general are, It is in fact a bare faced lie when its what a basic phone service costs. > particularly compared to the likes of Internode, Optus and so on. Another lie with the lowest cost DSL services. |