From: sadovnik socratus on
Terra incognita, Sacred ground, Mysterious territory.
#
The mathematical map brings us to the vacuum.
The physical map brings us to the vacuum.
These two maps are both as one map is confirmed,
the vacuum exists, but the underlying essence is not
revealed for us.
We see the map, we can understand separate marks,
symbols, formulas, equations but the whole picture,
the whole project of Universe is not clear for us.
Why?
Because we see half of map only, the other half
of map - the territory of vacuum is hidden for us.
We see the border between material world and
vacuum, we see particles interact with vacuum and
then comes darkness.
Therefore many people say the map is paradoxical.
How can we understand not only the map of the
material world, but the map of vacuum too, if it
is impossible to be there (T=0K) ? (!)
=========.
Soctatus.
==========================.
From: Androcles on

"sadovnik socratus" <is.socratus(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:4df3b63c-d8eb-47ff-b84e-07bac989d4ca(a)i9g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
> Terra incognita, Sacred ground, Mysterious territory.
> #
> The mathematical map brings us to the vacuum.
> The physical map brings us to the vacuum.
> These two maps are both as one map is confirmed,
> the vacuum exists, but the underlying essence is not
> revealed for us.
> We see the map, we can understand separate marks,
> symbols, formulas, equations but the whole picture,
> the whole project of Universe is not clear for us.
> Why?
> Because we see half of map only, the other half
> of map - the territory of vacuum is hidden for us.
> We see the border between material world and
> vacuum, we see particles interact with vacuum and
> then comes darkness.
> Therefore many people say the map is paradoxical.
> How can we understand not only the map of the
> material world, but the map of vacuum too, if it
> is impossible to be there (T=0K) ? (!)
> =========.
> Soctatus.
> ==========================.

Can't even spell your own name...


From: John Murphy on
On 4 May, 17:43, sadovnik socratus <is.socra...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Terra incognita, Sacred ground, Mysterious territory.
> #
> The mathematical map brings us to the vacuum.
> The physical map brings us to the vacuum.
> These two maps are both as one map is confirmed,
> the vacuum exists, but the underlying essence is not
> revealed for us.
> We see the map, we can understand separate  marks,
>  symbols, formulas, equations but the whole picture,
> the whole project of Universe is not clear for us.
> Why?
> Because we see half of map only, the other half
> of map - the territory of vacuum is hidden for us.
> We see the border between material world and
>  vacuum, we see particles interact with vacuum and
>  then comes darkness.
> Therefore many people say the map is paradoxical.
> How can we understand not only the map of the
> material world, but the map of vacuum too, if it
>  is impossible to be there (T=0K) ? (!)
> =========.
> Soctatus.
> ==========================.

On the map of a housing estate, for example, it will be possible to
give the coordinates of anything upon it, and to get from any point in
it to any other point in it.

On the other hand, if you are Captain Quirk on the Enterprise, you
will find that you have no idea where you are unless you know your
starting and end-points, simply because there are no universal co-
ordinates. You cannot know where you are, because there are two 'where
you ares', and the second you cannot find out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubeMeOJFjFg
--
Harbinger

PS: NASA and MIT will nevertheless come up with robots that serve
coffee, lose their papers, then shout at people in meetings, and, in
disgust, the robots will set out to re-design human beings, having
seen nothing to suggest that they themselves were the product of human
ingenuity! They knew that human beings were not as good as they
themselves because they never lost their papers and hated serving
coffee.