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From: sadovnik socratus on 4 May 2010 12:45 Terra incognita, Sacred ground, Mysterious territory. # The mathematical map brings us to the vacuum. The physical map brings us to the vacuum. These two maps are both as one map is confirmed, the vacuum exists, but the underlying essence is not revealed for us. We see the map, we can understand separate marks, symbols, formulas, equations but the whole picture, the whole project of Universe is not clear for us. Why? Because we see half of map only, the other half of map - the territory of vacuum is hidden for us. We see the border between material world and vacuum, we see particles interact with vacuum and then comes darkness. Therefore many people say the map is paradoxical. How can we understand not only the map of the material world, but the map of vacuum too, if it is impossible to be there (T=0K) ? (!) =========. Soctatus. ==========================.
From: Androcles on 4 May 2010 13:07 "sadovnik socratus" <is.socratus(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:4df3b63c-d8eb-47ff-b84e-07bac989d4ca(a)i9g2000yqi.googlegroups.com... > Terra incognita, Sacred ground, Mysterious territory. > # > The mathematical map brings us to the vacuum. > The physical map brings us to the vacuum. > These two maps are both as one map is confirmed, > the vacuum exists, but the underlying essence is not > revealed for us. > We see the map, we can understand separate marks, > symbols, formulas, equations but the whole picture, > the whole project of Universe is not clear for us. > Why? > Because we see half of map only, the other half > of map - the territory of vacuum is hidden for us. > We see the border between material world and > vacuum, we see particles interact with vacuum and > then comes darkness. > Therefore many people say the map is paradoxical. > How can we understand not only the map of the > material world, but the map of vacuum too, if it > is impossible to be there (T=0K) ? (!) > =========. > Soctatus. > ==========================. Can't even spell your own name...
From: John Murphy on 7 May 2010 17:57
On 4 May, 17:43, sadovnik socratus <is.socra...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Terra incognita, Sacred ground, Mysterious territory. > # > The mathematical map brings us to the vacuum. > The physical map brings us to the vacuum. > These two maps are both as one map is confirmed, > the vacuum exists, but the underlying essence is not > revealed for us. > We see the map, we can understand separate marks, > symbols, formulas, equations but the whole picture, > the whole project of Universe is not clear for us. > Why? > Because we see half of map only, the other half > of map - the territory of vacuum is hidden for us. > We see the border between material world and > vacuum, we see particles interact with vacuum and > then comes darkness. > Therefore many people say the map is paradoxical. > How can we understand not only the map of the > material world, but the map of vacuum too, if it > is impossible to be there (T=0K) ? (!) > =========. > Soctatus. > ==========================. On the map of a housing estate, for example, it will be possible to give the coordinates of anything upon it, and to get from any point in it to any other point in it. On the other hand, if you are Captain Quirk on the Enterprise, you will find that you have no idea where you are unless you know your starting and end-points, simply because there are no universal co- ordinates. You cannot know where you are, because there are two 'where you ares', and the second you cannot find out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubeMeOJFjFg -- Harbinger PS: NASA and MIT will nevertheless come up with robots that serve coffee, lose their papers, then shout at people in meetings, and, in disgust, the robots will set out to re-design human beings, having seen nothing to suggest that they themselves were the product of human ingenuity! They knew that human beings were not as good as they themselves because they never lost their papers and hated serving coffee. |