From: William Clark on
In article <1jdslcn.im3ge0a91tkwN%mikePOST(a)TOGROUPmacconsult.com>,
mikePOST(a)TOGROUPmacconsult.com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:

> William Clark <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > Actually, I am. I'm just not a psychic, which I needed to be in this
> > case.
>
> No, you simply needed to ask the people in charge of your mail servers
> what settings are required to connect to those specific servers.
>
> What you seem to want is for the programmers at Apple to be psychic.

Agreed, but not really feasible when I am 400 miles away from them, and
neither provider answers phones.
From: William Clark on
In article <1jdsl36.eik5tk1rmmqc4N%mikePOST(a)TOGROUPmacconsult.com>,
mikePOST(a)TOGROUPmacconsult.com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:

> William Clark <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > > The Mail help section on adding accounts leads you to
> > > <https://support.apple.com/kb/HT1277> which would have aided you in
> > > obtaining the proper configuration.
> >
> > Well, it didn't, because I could not find anything that referred to
> > anything prior to 10.5.
>
> Before you responde, did you even look at the page Tom provided?
> Apparently not, because it says:
>
> "Products Affected
> Mail, Mac OS X 10.4, Mac OS X 10.3, Mac OS X 10.2, Mac OS X 10.1, Mac OS
> X 10.5, Mac OS X 10.6, iPhone"
>
> "Are you having issues sending, receiving, or configuring Mail? If so,
> ask your Internet service provider (or email provider if it's different
> than your ISP) the following questions to verify that your account is
> set up correctly in Mail. You can print (or copy and paste to a text
> document) and keep this "cheat sheet" to record your email provider's
> settings for future reference. This sheet can make it easier for you
> when configuring Mail in Mac OS X or on iPhone or iPod touch, or when
> contacting your provider."
>
> It then provides a table with all the server settings one needs to know
> from their mail hosting provider to configure _any_ mail client.

That would have helped, but I didn't get pointed to that from the
program, only to the page set for 10.5 only. The other problem is that
the intermediate provider at the hotel was AT&T, my home ISPs are a
university one and RoadRunner. If you have ever tried dealing with AT&T
from a hotel, then you can understand the level of frustration. I spent
well over two hours just trying to get to talk to someone there who had
a clue about Mail.
From: William Clark on
In article <1jdqqrb.1ok8n5qrlfjpcN%mikePOST(a)TOGROUPmacconsult.com>,
mikePOST(a)TOGROUPmacconsult.com (Mike Rosenberg) wrote:

> William Clark <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
>
> > Indeed, but that is really not an excuse for not having done it with the
> > Tiger version.
>
> Let's see now. They come out with a new product, Leopard, with a lot of
> new features. In addition to the obvious ones like Time Machine and
> Spaces, there are some big changes in Mail, including stationery and the
> previously mentioned improvements in setting up accounts.
>
> You choose not to buy the new product but you want the new features
> anyway? Hey, just be glad they kept upgrading your Safari.

I am more than ready to upgrade, but all my research apps are not as
yet. All I was asking for was a decent help file!

Oh, and I have given up on Safari - I don't have all day to wait for it
to load, and Firefox is so much faster to do that.
From: Mike Rosenberg on
William Clark <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote:

> Agreed, but not really feasible when I am 400 miles away from them, and
> neither provider answers phones.

Tom Stiller found that page at Apple's support site. I just Googled and
quickly found AT&T's mail server settings.

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From: dorayme on
In article
<clark-4B28C5.14190912022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
William Clark <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote:

> Oh, and I have given up on Safari - I don't have all day to wait for it
> to load, and Firefox is so much faster to do that.

My Firefox (3.5.7) takes ages compared to my Safari 3.1.2 to
launch. Perhaps you are meaning to load websites.

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