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From: Mike Jr on 16 Feb 2010 09:19 On Feb 16, 7:44 am, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote: > Mike Jr wrote: > > On Feb 15, 10:54 pm, "Baron" <nos...(a)invalid.com> wrote: > >> Wall Street Journal Feb 16, 2010 > > > Good article, thank you. > > > [snip, to save space] > > > *> The lesson of climategate and now the IPCC's shoddy sourcing is > > that the > > *> claims of the global warming lobby need far more rigorous scrutiny. > > > If science had been doing its job none of this climate nonsense would > > have happened in the first place. Advocacy, like marketing any > > product, is the search for a predetermined endpoint. Science is the > > rigorous search for the truth with the endpoint determined strictly by > > the data. Scientist who are advocates first are no longer scientist. > > Science has been trying to do its job, the trouble is that science got shut > out by politics. > > The fact that someone claims to be a "scientist" doesn't make him one. This > is something that politicians need to understand. It would help if they > didn't call what they do "political science" because doing so gives them a > warped perspective on the nature of science. But a large majority of professional scientist, Ph.d's at universities, editors at Nature and Science, professional societies like the APS and AMS were drinking the AGW kool-aid. Some brave souls stood up to the "science is settled" nonsense. My personal hero is Hungarian physicist Dr. Ferenc Miskolczi. If somebody deserves a Nobel prize for integrity, courage, and science it's Ferenc. The judgment of history is on us. I hope that Graham Spanier at Penn State thinks long and hard about how history will view his legacy. --Mike Jr.
From: spudnik on 16 Feb 2010 12:36 sea-level is not rising, globally -- http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/Articles%202007/MornerInterview.pdf -- and warming is mostly equatorial. however, there is massive loss of soil, and that might change *relative* sea- level, in some locations, as well as dysplace some sea! thus quoth: Lets take a look at the complexity of polar bear life. First, the polar bear has been around for about 250,000 years, having survived both an Ice Age, and the last Interglacial period (130,000 years ago), when there was virtually no ice at the North Pole. Clearly, polar bears have adapted to the changing environment, as evidenced by their presence today. (This fact alone makes the polar bear smarter than Al Gore and the other global warming alarmists. Perhaps the polar bear survived the last Interglacial because it did not have computer climate models that said polar bears should not have survived!) http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/Articles%202007/GW_polarbears.pdf http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/Global_Warming.html > It amuses me that the people who want "change" are so afraid of change--God > forbid that the seal level rise two inches. thus: the photographic record that I saw, in some rather eclectic compendium of Einsteinmania, seemed to show quite a "bending" effect, I must say; not that the usual interpretation is correct, though. Nude Scientist said: > > "Enter another piece of luck for Einstein. We now know that the light- > > bending effect was actually too small for Eddington to have discerned --Another Flower for Einstein: http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/articles/spring01/Electrodynamics.html --les OEuvres! http://wlym.com --Stop Cheeny, Rice & the ICC in Sudan; no more Anglo-american quagmires! http://larouchepub.com/pr/2010/100204rice
From: Larry Hammick on 16 Feb 2010 14:53 [ "spudnik" <Space998(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:5f5a8cee-644c-461b-83ee-df9463abbaff(a)j6g2000vbd.googlegroups.com... sea-level is not rising, globally -- http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/Articles%202007/MornerInterview.pdf -- and warming is mostly equatorial. however, there is massive loss of soil, and that might change *relative* sea- level, in some locations, as well as dysplace some sea! thus quoth: Let�s take a look at the complexity of polar bear life. First, the polar bear has been around for about 250,000 years, having survived both an Ice Age, and the last Interglacial period (130,000 years ago), when there was virtually no ice at the North Pole. Clearly, polar bears have adapted to the changing environment, as evidenced by their presence today. (This fact alone makes the polar bear smarter than Al Gore and the other global warming alarmists. Perhaps the polar bear survived the last Interglacial because it did not have computer climate models that said polar bears should not have survived!) http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/Articles%202007/GW_polarbears.pdf http://www.21stcenturysciencetech.com/Global_Warming.html > It amuses me that the people who want "change" are so afraid of > change--God > forbid that the seal level rise two inches. thus: the photographic record that I saw, in some rather eclectic compendium of Einsteinmania, seemed to show quite a "bending" effect, I must say; not that the usual interpretation is correct, though. Nude Scientist said: > > "Enter another piece of luck for Einstein. We now know that the light- > > bending effect was actually too small for Eddington to have discerned ] Looks like the crisis is in capable hands: http://bit.ly/9lFlpE
From: Victor Eijkhout on 25 Feb 2010 12:00 Mike Jr <n00spam(a)comcast.net> wrote: > If science had been doing its job none of this climate nonsense would > have happened in the first place. You know of course that the IPCC has a couple of working groups? And which one is doing the science? And which one is doing the projections about future effect? And which one the errors have been found in? (Hint: not the science one.) The science is largely clear. No errors have been found in that part. We 're just not entirely clear just how bad the future will look. Victor. -- Victor Eijkhout -- eijkhout at tacc utexas edu
From: spudnik on 26 Feb 2010 19:10
the UNIPCC has been continuously self-culled of anyone who dysagrees with the thesis of "global" warming, largely based upon computerized simulacra & selective repotage; I know of no dataset that actually shows "global" warming, although I think that there is equatorial warming. rather, I know of several datasests that show temperate zne cooling. > The science is largely clear. No errors have been found in that part. We > 're just not entirely clear just how bad the future will look. thus: I'm not a Larouchiac, these days, but their research is good, in showing that Marx was far too heavily influenced by the so-called capitalism of Adam Smith, as his "thesis," and who was himself trained at Hailyborough College; eh? both were contemporaries of the American Revolution, which was fought against British Liberal Free Trade (at any rate, _The Wealth of Nations_ was published in 1776). > I am forced to believe that for this and similar reasons that it is > imperative that only white men be counted on. > read more » thus: "all [of] their creeds are an admonition in [JS's] sight" -- I like it, but waht did he mean in the context of _The Pearl of [that] Price_?? thus: so, what is this "diode" supposed to be connected to? > 3) Diamond has a negative electron work function into vacuum. > 4) Osmium has a 5.92 eV electron work function into vacuum. > US Pat. 5283501 > Chem. Mater. 20(21) 6871 (2008) > Diamond and Related Materials, 15(11-12) 2082 (2006) > Electron Comm Jpn Pt 2, 82(8) 42 (1999) thus: that was the paragraph before their patented new ****. > here:http://www.bloomenergy.com/products/solid-oxide-fuel-cell/. thus: that is an "H2," you say, with 100mpg using *what* kind of engine?... the Bradley fughting Vehicles was said to be big peice of **** by the military, then GM sold it to us as a SUV via the pre- Governeurateur! so, what is the sustainable rate of "fossilized (TM)" fuel production, anyway?... or, what is the "current" rate of its production? --les OEUvres! http://wlym.com --Stop Cheeny, Rice, Pendergast and the ICC's 3rd British invasion of Sudan! http://larouchepub.com |