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From: Lester Zick on 1 Apr 2007 20:11 On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 16:18:16 -0400, Bob Kolker <nowhere(a)nowhere.com> wrote: >Lester Zick wrote: > >> >> Mathematikers still can't say what an infinity is, Bob, and when they >> try to they're just guessing anyway. So I suppose if we were to take >> your claim literally we would just have to conclude that what made >> physics possible was guessing and not mathematics at all. > >Not true. Transfite cardinality is well defined. I didn't say it wasn't, Bob. You can do all the transfinite zen you like. I said "infinity". >In projective geometry points at infinity are well defined (use >homogeneous coordinates). That's nice, Bob. >You are batting 0 for n, as usual. Considerably higher than second guessers. ~v~~
From: Lester Zick on 1 Apr 2007 20:12 On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:09:25 -0500, Tony Orlow <tony(a)lightlink.com> wrote: >Bob Kolker wrote: >> Tony Orlow wrote: >>> >>> As I said to Brian, it's provably the size of the set of finite >>> natural numbers greater than or equal to 1. No, there is no last >>> finite natural, and no, there is no "size" for N. Aleph_0 is a phantom. >> >> No. It is the cardinality of the set of integers. > >No, Bob, that's a Muslim lie, perpetrated by the Jews as a joke on the >xtians. > >> >> Deep in your heart you want everything to be finite. That will limit >> mathematics to totally up grocery bills and such like. > >No, Bob, life is not simply a marketplace for me, as it is for you. > >> >> Mathematics based on infinities has made physics possible. >> > >Measure makes physics possible. And guessing makes Bob possible. ~v~~
From: Lester Zick on 1 Apr 2007 20:14 On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 18:42:46 -0400, Bob Kolker <nowhere(a)nowhere.com> wrote: >Tony Orlow wrote:>> >> >> Measure makes physics possible. > >On compact sets which must have infinite cardinality. Yes but do the play on DVR's? >The measure of a dense countable set is zero. The measure of the dense countable set known as Bob no doubt. ~v~~
From: Lester Zick on 1 Apr 2007 20:15 On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 19:45:58 -0600, Virgil <virgil(a)comcast.net> wrote: >In article <460ef650(a)news2.lightlink.com>, > Tony Orlow <tony(a)lightlink.com> wrote: > >> Bob Kolker wrote: >> > Tony Orlow wrote:>> >> >> >> >> Measure makes physics possible. >> > >> > On compact sets which must have infinite cardinality. >> > >> > The measure of a dense countable set is zero. >> > >> > Bob Kolker >> >> Yes, some finite multiple of an infinitesimal. > >In any consistent system in which there are infinitesimals, none of >those infinitesimals are zero. Yet Bob claims to be able to integrate points into lines? Go figure. ~v~~
From: Lester Zick on 1 Apr 2007 20:19
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:05:48 -0600, Virgil <virgil(a)comcast.net> wrote: >In article <460edc26(a)news2.lightlink.com>, > Tony Orlow <tony(a)lightlink.com> wrote: > >> Bob Kolker wrote: >> > Tony Orlow wrote: >> >> >> >> As I said to Brian, it's provably the size of the set of finite >> >> natural numbers greater than or equal to 1. No, there is no last >> >> finite natural, and no, there is no "size" for N. Aleph_0 is a phantom. >> > >> > No. It is the cardinality of the set of integers. >> >> No, Bob, that's a Muslim lie, perpetrated by the Jews as a joke on the >> xtians. > >And does TO pretend to have a mathematically valid proof of that claim? Tony is probably only jewish on his parents' side. ~v~~ |