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From: Bob Kolker on 17 Mar 2007 09:38 SucMucPaProlij wrote: > > I don't want you to expect too much because this is not mathematical proof, it > is philosophical proof (or discussion). This is just the way how I explain > things to myself. If it ain't mathematics and it ain't physics, it is bullshit. Philsophy, by and large, is academic style bullshit. Bob Kolker
From: Bob Kolker on 17 Mar 2007 09:40 SucMucPaProlij wrote: > > Mathematikers do claim that math has nothing to do with reality but if it is > true you can't use math to prove it because math has nothing to do with reality. > It means that there is little possibility that math has some connections with > real world. Mathematics has an instrumental connection with the world. It makes physics possible. Isaac Newton first had to invent calculus to develop a physical theory of dynamic motion. Without mathematics there is no physics. Bob Kolker
From: SucMucPaProlij on 17 Mar 2007 10:22 "Bob Kolker" <nowhere(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message news:5629arF26ac36U1(a)mid.individual.net... > SucMucPaProlij wrote: >> >> I don't want you to expect too much because this is not mathematical proof, >> it is philosophical proof (or discussion). This is just the way how I explain >> things to myself. > > If it ain't mathematics and it ain't physics, it is bullshit. Philsophy, by > and large, is academic style bullshit. > Isaak Newton: Philosophiae Naturalis Principia Mathematica or "academic style bullshit" Think first, reply latter, Bob!
From: SucMucPaProlij on 17 Mar 2007 10:31 >> >> Mathematikers do claim that math has nothing to do with reality but if it is >> true you can't use math to prove it because math has nothing to do with >> reality. It means that there is little possibility that math has some >> connections with real world. > > Mathematics has an instrumental connection with the world. It makes physics > possible. Isaac Newton first had to invent calculus to develop a physical > theory of dynamic motion. > > Without mathematics there is no physics. > And I agree but can you tell me does point exist? How do you explain it? You don't have to lecture me about Newton. Newton is not subject of this discussion. And you don't have to reply if you don't understand my question.
From: SucMucPaProlij on 17 Mar 2007 10:46
"Bob Kolker" <nowhere(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message news:5629arF26ac36U1(a)mid.individual.net... > SucMucPaProlij wrote: >> >> I don't want you to expect too much because this is not mathematical proof, >> it is philosophical proof (or discussion). This is just the way how I explain >> things to myself. > > If it ain't mathematics and it ain't physics, it is bullshit. Philsophy, by > and large, is academic style bullshit. > Reality check: If I say "This is math" does it make it math just because I say so? If I say "This is physics" does it make it physics just because I say so? If I say "This is philosophy" does it make it philosophy just because I say so? How can you tell if something is math, physics or philosophy if you never saw this thing I talk about? Introduce yourself with Shakespeare! |