From: Bob Kolker on
T. O wrote.
> One may express them algebraically, but their truth is derived and
> justified geometrically.

There is only one justification in mathematics. Does the conclusion
follow logically from the premises.

Bob Kolker

From: Bob Kolker on
Tony Orlow wrote:>
> That is like saying your mind has outgrown your body, so you no longer
> need to eat or breathe. The language of math is the more abstract
> aspect, but the geometry of it is still the basis of its truth.

So it counting.

Bob Kolker

From: Bob Kolker on
Tony Orlow wrote:
>
> That is like saying your mind has outgrown your body, so you no longer
> need to eat or breathe. The language of math is the more abstract
> aspect, but the geometry of it is still the basis of its truth.

So is counting.

Bob Kolker

From: Bob Kolker on
Tony Orlow wrote:

>
>
> Bob - wake up. How do we know relativity is correct? Because it follows
> from e=mc^2?

Correct in what sense. Mathematically, relativity theory is simply an
excercise in Poincare groups. As a physics theory, we insist on
empirical corroberation of the conclusions that are interpreted to say
something about the world.

Bob Kolker
From: Bob Kolker on
Tony Orlow wrote:

> As I said to Brian, it's provably the size of the set of finite natural
> numbers greater than or equal to 1. No, there is no last finite natural,
> and no, there is no "size" for N. Aleph_0 is a phantom.

What about the class of all sets that can be put in correspondence with
the set of intergers with a 1-1 onto mapping. That is what cardinality
is. It is an equivalence class of sets under the relationship of
equinumerosity.

Bob Kolker