The Emission Theory of Androcles
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From: Henry Wilson, DSc on 19 Sep 2009 18:36 On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 01:00:00 -0700 (PDT), Jerry <Cephalobus_alienus(a)comcast.net> wrote: >On Sep 19, 2:50�am, Jonah Thomas <jethom...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Jerry <Cephalobus_alie...(a)comcast.net> wrote: >> > Jonah Thomas <jethom...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> > > Jerry <Cephalobus_alie...(a)comcast.net> wrote: ersus Ritz. >> >> > The analyses of the mirrored Sagnac apparatus found on this >> > newsgroup usually follow the Tolman assumptions, and find no >> > predicted fringe displacement. >> >> > It appears that the assumption of Ritzian reflections (which I >> > find utterly bizarre) does result in a fringe displacement in a >> > mirrored Sagnac apparatus. >> >> I agree that ritzian reflections look bizarre. But are they more bizarre >> than special relativity? > >I find special relativity to be utterly natural. > >One way of looking at SR is that it is a direct expression of the >geometry of Minkowski space-time. If you understand the geometry, >all concerns about supposed "paradoxes" vanish. If you understand circular logic, all of Einstein's theory vanishes. >> > But here is where the "general argument" falls flat on its face. >> > Before the invention of fibre optics, it was considered >> > impossible to achieve a closed light path without the use of >> > mirrors. Fibre optic gyroscopes represent a mirrorless >> > implementation of the Sagnac principle, and all versions of >> > emission theories predict zero fringe displacement given a >> > mirrorless closed loop. >> >> Do fiber optics work without reflection> > >Correct. > >Jerry > Henry Wilson...www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm Einstein...World's greatest SciFi writer..
From: Henry Wilson, DSc on 19 Sep 2009 18:41 On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 00:46:41 +0100, "Androcles" <Headmaster(a)Hogwarts.physics_o> wrote: > >"Henry Wilson, DSc" <hw@..> wrote in message >news:l458b5dpi4f3qk5plr2kqk569bt16sbe3b(a)4ax.com... Incidentally, on a more serious note, you once produced an animation of two counter-rotating gear wheels supposedly demonstrating the Sagnac effect. Do you still have that? Henry Wilson...www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm Einstein...World's greatest SciFi writer..
From: Androcles on 19 Sep 2009 19:26 "Henry Wilson, DSc" <hw@..> wrote in message news:jdnab5piaefj8kgsoi99th0tsricss1ri8(a)4ax.com... > On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 00:46:41 +0100, "Androcles" > <Headmaster(a)Hogwarts.physics_o> > wrote: > >> >>"Henry Wilson, DSc" <hw@..> wrote in message >>news:l458b5dpi4f3qk5plr2kqk569bt16sbe3b(a)4ax.com... > Incidentally, on a more serious note, you once produced an animation of > two > counter-rotating gear wheels supposedly demonstrating the Sagnac effect. > Do you > still have that? Of course, and you can't count. http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Sagnac/MechSagnac.gif
From: Jerry on 19 Sep 2009 19:54 On Sep 19, 12:19 am, Jonah Thomas <jethom...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > As I have said before, people who believe in relativity have no ground > to reject theories for not making sense. > > I'm interested in experimental refutations, though. http://mysite.verizon.net/cephalobus_alienus/index.htm Jerry
From: Henry Wilson, DSc on 19 Sep 2009 20:06
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 00:26:04 +0100, "Androcles" <Headmaster(a)Hogwarts.physics_o> wrote: > >"Henry Wilson, DSc" <hw@..> wrote in message >news:jdnab5piaefj8kgsoi99th0tsricss1ri8(a)4ax.com... >> On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 00:46:41 +0100, "Androcles" >> <Headmaster(a)Hogwarts.physics_o> >> wrote: >> >>> >>>"Henry Wilson, DSc" <hw@..> wrote in message >>>news:l458b5dpi4f3qk5plr2kqk569bt16sbe3b(a)4ax.com... >> Incidentally, on a more serious note, you once produced an animation of >> two >> counter-rotating gear wheels supposedly demonstrating the Sagnac effect. >> Do you >> still have that? > >Of course, and you can't count. > http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Sagnac/MechSagnac.gif that's the one...but I can't use it after all....not enough detail or info Henry Wilson...www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm Einstein...World's greatest SciFi writer.. |