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From: David on 29 May 2007 07:16 Thanks for the reply. I hope HP will issue more detailed information soon on the built-in functions and whether indirect addressing will be included. "Giancarlo" <giancarlo.mattioni(a)indesitcompany.com> wrote in message news:1180434260.212800.324120(a)q69g2000hsb.googlegroups.com... > On 29 Mag, 12:07, "David" <dhan...(a)btopenworld.com> wrote: >> Does anyone know if the 35s keyboard is like the 41cv? It looks similar. >> Anyone know the price yet? What the heck I'll buy one anyway. >> >> Dave >> >> <altz...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:1180390796.945800.239040(a)i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com... >> >> > The new HP35S (the HP 35 35th anniversary model) has arrived: >> >http://www.calculators-hp.com/35s.html >> >> > and it looks supurb! >> >> > Dave. > > Hi Dave. > As far as I was able to understand from the huge rumours the event > caused ;-), it seems that the keys shaping (with slanted faces) and > the colour mapping recall the 41's. > I expect the functions to be quite different, eben if indirect > addressing could be supported.... > As far as the price goes, I expect it to be not much higher than the > 33s one - my guess? Between 50 and 65 USD. > Best regards. > Giancarlo >
From: Wayne Brown on 29 May 2007 07:38 altzone(a)gmail.com <altzone(a)gmail.com> wrote <1180390796.945800.239040(a)i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> in comp.sys.hp48: > The new HP35S (the HP 35 35th anniversary model) has arrived: > http://www.calculators-hp.com/35s.html > > and it looks supurb! It looks a lot better than I expected, but they still had to spoil it with those ugly cursor keys. :-( -- Wayne Brown <fwbrown(a)bellsouth.net> (HPCC #1104) ��s ofereode, �isses swa m�g. ("That passed away, this also can.") from "Deor," in the Exeter Book (folios 100r-100v)
From: jsmanrique on 29 May 2007 07:57 On 29 mayo, 00:19, "altz...(a)gmail.com" <altz...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The new HP35S (the HP 35 35th anniversary model) has arrived:http://www.calculators-hp.com/35s.html > > and it looks supurb! > > Dave. And what about the hp10s?: http://www.calculators-hp.com/10s.html A solar cell calc from HP ;-)
From: Giancarlo on 29 May 2007 08:09 On 29 Mag, 13:03, ppeb <bpwa...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > It looks good. I will get one. It only lacks one big thing: I/O. How > soon will we see a USB or serial port hacked in? Hi. I think that providing some I/O would prevent the calc from being accepted in many tests and exams, so maybe HP wouldn't run the risk of loosing a slice of the market... Just a thought. Best regards. Giancarlo
From: John H Meyers on 29 May 2007 08:24
[looking back into history, having collected enough truly fine calcs for my tomb, for reliable navigation in the after-life :] On Tue, 29 May 2007 03:25:03 -0500, Raymond Del Tondo wrote: > At least it looks very promising, modern retro style > with ENTER bar and arithmetic keys where they belong. I suppose by "arithmetic keys where they belong," you mean one row lower down, rather than above ENTER ? There was very good reason for the original HP35's arithmetic key placement, however, which was on the left, with [+] and [*] adjacent in the middle of the grouping, but that has long been forgotten. http://www.hpmuseum.org/four35s.jpg Since those days, HP added its now-expected extra lower-left shift keys and ON/C, moved arithmetic keys to the right side, and adopted the same sequence of [+] [-] [*] [/] that the "four-banger" industry made everyone expect (the present-day item is also one column wider, very beneficially). My accountant friends, who "speed typed" on their old adding machines, would have appreciated the thoughtful "human engineering" considerations of industrial designer Ed Liljenwall -- "We spent as much time on the keyboard layout, on the choice of functions, and on the styling as we did on the electronics" -- but usage has changed, and so has design. The following quotes are from hpmuseum.org: "The HP-35 and probably the entire HP pocket calculator product line was the sole result of a visionary CEO who chose to ignore the market studies and produce what he felt that engineers would want. His view of the market was that if the engineer at the next bench liked it and thought it would make his job easier, then it was worth doing. The HP-35 was developed in two years, at a cost of approximately one million dollars with twenty engineers. At the time, three to five years was a typical HP development cycle." "HP originally developed the HP-35 for internal use and then decided to try selling it." [when has that ever happened in more modern times?] "Hewlett-Packard Integrity... The HP-35 had numerical algorithms that exceeded the precision of most mainframe computers at the time. During development, Dave Cochran, who was in charge of the algorithms, tried to use a Burroughs B5500 to validate the results of the HP-35 but instead found too little precision in the former to continue. IBM mainframes also didn't measure up. This forced time-consuming manual comparisons of results to mathematical tables. A few bugs got through this process. For example: 2.02 ln e^x resulted in 2 rather than 2.02. When the bug was discovered, HP had already sold 25,000 units which was a huge volume for the company. In a meeting, Dave Packard asked what they were going to do about the units already in the field and someone in the crowd said 'Don't tell?' At this Packard's pencil snapped and he said: 'Who said that? We're going to tell everyone, and offer them a replacement. It would be better to never make a dime of profit than to have a product out there with a problem.'" Also not in more modern times. "The HP-35, like all the hand-held HPs that followed, was required to remain undamaged after falling three feet onto concrete on each of its corners." Yeah, that's the one I want in my casket, to survive the final six-foot drop :) Off[xx ]On |