From: CY on
>
> > As I said, a thin line between jail and heaven.
>
> Or "Hack or Crack".
>
> I always get a kick out of 'hackers' getting violent at being called
> "crackers", while "crackers" consider themselves simple "hackers".
>
> -ralph

Or "white" and "black" hat, I sometimes get paid to try to get into
systems... (Ours of course) too see how good they are, some didnt make
it yet.. ;)

//CY
From: Ralph on

"CY" <christery(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > > As I said, a thin line between jail and heaven.
> >
> > Or "Hack or Crack".
> >
> > I always get a kick out of 'hackers' getting violent at being called
> > "crackers", while "crackers" consider themselves simple "hackers".
> >
> > -ralph
>
> Or "white" and "black" hat, I sometimes get paid to try to get into
> systems... (Ours of course) too see how good they are, some didnt make
> it yet.. ;)
>

The most fascinating project I was ever involved with was creating a
corporate Honey Pot. My side was only creating content that mimic'd
enterprise applications. The actually "security" testing and monitoring was
handled by a hired group that had the most bizzare accumulation of
characters I have ever been associated with.

I never understood more than one sentance out of every five, but was amazing
to watch. One good thing that came out of it - I've never taken any level of
*security* for granted ever again. <g>

-ralph


From: CY on
On 13 Feb, 22:53, "Ralph" <nt_consultin...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> "CY" <christ...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:fa418696-2fb9-4653-9c26-9a507937039a(a)i39g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > > > As I said, a thin line between jail and heaven.
>
> > > Or "Hack or Crack".
>
> > > I always get a kick out of 'hackers' getting violent at being called
> > > "crackers", while "crackers" consider themselves simple "hackers".
>
> > > -ralph
>
> > Or "white" and "black" hat, I sometimes get paid to try to get into
> > systems... (Ours of course) too see how good they are, some didnt make
> > it yet.. ;)
>
> The most fascinating project I was ever involved with was creating a
> corporate Honey Pot. My side was only creating content that mimic'd
> enterprise applications. The actually "security" testing and monitoring was
> handled by a hired group that had the most bizzare accumulation of
> characters I have ever been associated with.
>
> I never understood more than one sentance out of every five, but was amazing
> to watch. One good thing that came out of it - I've never taken any level of
> *security* for granted ever again. <g>
>
> -ralph

Yeah, Ralph we called one TITANIC, unsinkable... and used the attacks
to learn.. dont know if that is still in use, as I moved on...
Away from VB6 to powerpoint.. ;) and that is a "step upwords"...
From: David Kaye on
CY <christery(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>David, I do care

I didn't ask that. I *do* care. I'm quite amused that the original poster
left when he realized we weren't going to help him write a zombie.

From: C. Kevin Provance on
"CY" <christery(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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| David, I do care
| Mike, That would be my position too, but changing MAC is even worse...
| Like the DECNet Irons do... AA-00-04-00-0A-14 (5.10) )and then
| another one comes along with the same... ;)
| Kevin, for a moment U did ;) (wrote that response)
|
| The line is thin, but I think what I've seen those scriptkiddys dont
| get help here, they get it from search engines... But if for a
| "whatever" Q then the application can be harmful.
|
| A boy from Norway wanted to listen to his CD:s on a Linux PC, it didnt
| work so he had to fix it (go around the CSS or whatever) and published
| that, is that wrong too?
|
| As I said, a thin line between jail and heaven.

I have never been able to understand a thing you type.