The Value Of An Apology, At Least From A Republican's Perspective!!
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From: David Ruether on 10 Sep 2009 10:02 "Jim Keegan" <jkeegan(a)mchsi.com> wrote in message news:3W6qm.37320$5n1.34083(a)attbi_s21... > "Keith Nuttle" <keith_nuttle(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:h8ar7t$ron$1(a)aioe.org... >> Do you know what obama and a rug have in common? >> They lie all of the time. > AFUCKINGMEN!!!!!!! It is sad to see the extremely low level of discourse that an important issue like health care reform has brought to the fore - and the incredible "know nothing" ignorance that is now exhibited by so many. THINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Without that, we are doomed to lose our democracy as we descend into a chaos resulting from a lack of respect for leaders (finally!) of the highest caliber, and the institutions without which we can have very little stability. See beyond the rantings and lies of the talk show hosts and politicians who care not a whit about the consequences of their actions, but only about short-term aggrandizement and demagoguery - and do this before it is too late. Please remember that it is easier to pull down a house than to build it... --DR
From: David Ruether on 10 Sep 2009 10:34 "Bob G" <mrbobjames(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:94a4b97f-52ef-4dbe-935b-5f0597e68566(a)t2g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... >> What he said was a lie, the health care will be provided to all tax >> payers and illegals are covered under the tax law so will receive free >> health care. Unless it was added all of the bills that have passed did >> not exclude illegals. > I don't know. Have we so lost our humanity that we think illegals are > animals? It's pathetic to hear a President promise to deny health care > to some people in order to appease Republicans. Yes - and that health care would not be "free" in any case, as it now is for many who currently (and expensively for the rest of us) use emergency room facilities in lieu of having a regular (and far less expensive) GP. As a tax-payer and health-care payer, I would much prefer to cover a $100 GP visit than a $1000 ER visit for an "illegal" concealed inside my bills. And I would also prefer that a communicable desease or potentially very serious and expensive condition be caught early through good care. It is short-sighted to see this in "us vs. them" terms when universal health care, including preventive care, helps us all. Or, for those against single payer health care (which is what SS Medicare is - and most are VERY happy with that, and its administrative costs are a small fraction of those of private insurance), look at the statistics. In EVERY country that has a single-payer system of health care, the average life span is greater than ours(!), and the cost of the health care system is less than ours(!). Yet the "know-nothings" hide their heads in the sand and mutter idiotic things like, "socialism"... --DR
From: Bowser on 10 Sep 2009 10:48 "Keith Nuttle" <keith_nuttle(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:h8ar7t$ron$1(a)aioe.org... > Larry Thong wrote: >> It seems the meaning and value of the word "apology" has been watered >> down to now mean "I'm sorry I got caught for doing whatever I did but was >> very happy doing it up and till the point I got caught." It's sad that >> this practice is commonplace with business's, politicians, investment >> brokers, religious figures, criminals alike. >> >> Good ole boy Joe Wilson, a Republican, called out "you lie" during >> Obama's speech and shortly apologizes after getting called out over it. >> It's sad to see these juvenile actions taken by Wilson and the >> Republicans when everyone knows Obama is very passionate and takes >> seriously the problem of health care reform. He is the only President in >> history that is actually doing something about removing the waste and >> corruption in the health care system. Give Obama a round of applause!!! >> >> >> >> > Apologies worked for all of the people that obama appointed to his > administration with a few exceptions that got justifiably canned. > > What he said was a lie, the health care will be provided to all tax payers > and illegals are covered under the tax law so will receive free health > care. Unless it was added all of the bills that have passed did not > exclude illegals. Prove it. I've heard this from a few right-wingers, but it's all heresay, apparently. Provide your source. > > > > Do you know what obama and a rug have in common? > > > > They lie all of the time.
From: eNo on 10 Sep 2009 14:39 On Sep 10, 3:08 am, "Larry Thong" <larry_th...(a)shitstring.com> wrote: > Good ole boy Joe Wilson, a Republican, called out "you lie" during Obama's > speech and shortly apologizes after getting called out over it. It's sad > to see these juvenile actions taken by Wilson and the Republicans when > everyone knows Obama is very passionate and takes seriously the problem of > health care reform. Everyone knows? Let's let that hyperbole go, and let's move on to say that it is sad that people feel compelled to apologize when they in fact don't believe they did anything wrong -- the flipside of what you are pointing out. Joe Wilson *was* rude in shouting out "you lie" and should rightly apologize for his immature behavior. I doubt, however, that he believes his statement is false or misleading... as might be in fact the case for the statement the president made. No, the legislation does not have provisions to hand out health care to illegal immigrants -- in that specific statement the president is truthful -- but it does contain numerous loopholes, at least one of which could accommodate a truck-load of illegal immigrants, coyote included. All of which brings us back to what the meaning of "is" is... Perhaps good ol' Joe should have shouted "You mislead!" -- but no doubt he would have still had to apologize for such impulsive behavior, the difference being that his actual statement is much catchier.
From: Bowser on 10 Sep 2009 15:00
"George Kerby" <ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:C6CE9A09.33FAD%ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com... > > > > On 9/10/09 5:08 AM, in article > EKWdnfDeK_e0TTXXnZ2dnUVZ_oSdnZ2d(a)supernews.com, "Larry Thong" > <larry_thong(a)shitstring.com> wrote: > >> It seems the meaning and value of the word "apology" has been watered >> down >> to now mean "I'm sorry I got caught for doing whatever I did but was very >> happy doing it up and till the point I got caught." It's sad that this >> practice is commonplace with business's, politicians, investment brokers, >> religious figures, criminals alike. >> >> Good ole boy Joe Wilson, a Republican, called out "you lie" during >> Obama's >> speech and shortly apologizes after getting called out over it. It's >> sad >> to see these juvenile actions taken by Wilson and the Republicans when >> everyone knows Obama is very passionate and takes seriously the problem >> of >> health care reform. He is the only President in history that is actually >> doing something about removing the waste and corruption in the health >> care >> system. Give Obama a round of applause!!! >> >> > He really didn't lie. > > By the time The Anointed One gets finished, there will no such thing as > illegal aliens. Open borders for all!!! More DemoCrap voters is an > instant. I agree. If this country ever had a republican president and a cooperative republican congress, spending would come to a halt, the budget would be balanced, and the borders would be closed, as well as English being installed as our national language. Oh, wait... |