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From: Bill Graham on 17 Sep 2009 20:13 "D. Peter Maus" <DPeterMaus(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote in message news:h8uea5$q21$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > On 9/17/09 17:33 , SMS wrote: >> Bill Graham wrote: >> >>> It's amazing how few people here break into houses, when they know >>> that the occupants probably have a gun. >> >> In fact, the opposite is true. Nearly all break-ins occur when the >> occupants are not home. Guns are one of the items most likely to be >> stolen in house break-ins. >> >>> If I were a professional house breaker, I would go to some country >>> where no one is allowed to own a gun. That's just good common sense. >> >> A professional "house breaker" does not break into houses that are >> occupied. They do break into houses where they think fence-able items >> are available. An indication that the homeowner is a member of the NRA >> would indicate the probability that handguns are stored in the house. >> > > > If you want to prevent break-ins, install security cameras, > alarms, and >> get a dog that barks a lot when strangers approach. You'll be much more >> likely to prevent a break-in than you would by owning a gun. > > > > Um...when Morton Grove banned handguns, home invasions went up 128%. > > Just look at the crime rate in New York City, where handguns have been illegal all of my life.
From: D. Peter Maus on 17 Sep 2009 20:16 On 9/17/09 19:13 , Bill Graham wrote: > > "D. Peter Maus" <DPeterMaus(a)worldnet.att.net> wrote in message > news:h8uea5$q21$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> On 9/17/09 17:33 , SMS wrote: >>> Bill Graham wrote: >>> >>>> It's amazing how few people here break into houses, when they know >>>> that the occupants probably have a gun. >>> >>> In fact, the opposite is true. Nearly all break-ins occur when the >>> occupants are not home. Guns are one of the items most likely to be >>> stolen in house break-ins. >>> >>>> If I were a professional house breaker, I would go to some country >>>> where no one is allowed to own a gun. That's just good common sense. >>> >>> A professional "house breaker" does not break into houses that are >>> occupied. They do break into houses where they think fence-able items >>> are available. An indication that the homeowner is a member of the NRA >>> would indicate the probability that handguns are stored in the house. >>> >> >> > If you want to prevent break-ins, install security cameras, >> alarms, and >>> get a dog that barks a lot when strangers approach. You'll be much more >>> likely to prevent a break-in than you would by owning a gun. >> >> >> >> Um...when Morton Grove banned handguns, home invasions went up 128%. >> >> > Just look at the crime rate in New York City, where handguns have been > illegal all of my life. Or DC.
From: Savageduck on 17 Sep 2009 20:21 On 2009-09-17 16:52:45 -0700, "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> said: > > "SMS" <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote in message > news:4ab2b900$0$1618$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... >> Bill Graham wrote: >> >>> It's amazing how few people here break into houses, when they know that >>> the occupants probably have a gun. >> >> In fact, the opposite is true. Nearly all break-ins occur when the >> occupants are not home. Guns are one of the items most likely to be >> stolen in house break-ins. >> >>> If I were a professional house breaker, I would go to some country >>> where no one is allowed to own a gun. That's just good common sense. >> >> A professional "house breaker" does not break into houses that are >> occupied. They do break into houses where they think fence-able items >> are available. An indication that the homeowner is a member of the NRA >> would indicate the probability that handguns are stored in the house. >> >> If you want to prevent break-ins, install security cameras, alarms, and >> get a dog that barks a lot when strangers approach. You'll be much more >> likely to prevent a break-in than you would by owning a gun. > > I meant break ins when the occupants either are home, or the breaker > doesn't know whether or not the occupants are home.....Of course, > people won't normally break into houses when the occupants are known to > be home. Especially here in the US, where the occupants are known to > have guns in the house. When I leave the house, I leave lights on, and > close my garage door, so nobody knows I am gone. And when I am home > sleeping in the middle of the night, I have that gun under my mattress, > baby..... Under the mattress is not a safe place to keep any weapon, especially groping for it under duress. A bedside drawer is safer and more accessible. BTW there is nothing that will clear your home of intruders quicker than the sound of a 12 gauge pump action shotgun being racked. That is by far the finest home defense weapon. ....and you will probably never even have to introduce yourself to your uninvited guests. -- Regards, Savageduck
From: Bill Graham on 17 Sep 2009 20:42 "Savageduck" <savageduck@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message news:2009091716273119336-savageduck(a)REMOVESPAMmecom... > On 2009-09-17 15:47:33 -0700, "D. Peter Maus" > <DPeterMaus(a)worldnet.att.net> said: > >> On 9/17/09 17:33 , SMS wrote: >>> Bill Graham wrote: >>> >>>> It's amazing how few people here break into houses, when they know >>>> that the occupants probably have a gun. >>> >>> In fact, the opposite is true. Nearly all break-ins occur when the >>> occupants are not home. Guns are one of the items most likely to be >>> stolen in house break-ins. >>> >>>> If I were a professional house breaker, I would go to some country >>>> where no one is allowed to own a gun. That's just good common sense. >>> >>> A professional "house breaker" does not break into houses that are >>> occupied. They do break into houses where they think fence-able items >>> are available. An indication that the homeowner is a member of the NRA >>> would indicate the probability that handguns are stored in the house. >>> >> >> > If you want to prevent break-ins, install security cameras, alarms, >> and >>> get a dog that barks a lot when strangers approach. You'll be much more >>> likely to prevent a break-in than you would by owning a gun. >> >> >> >> Um...when Morton Grove banned handguns, home invasions went up 128%. > > Damn! It's a good thing I have this: > http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/G-Kimber-CDP-LAc.jpg > > and as a retired peace officer, can liberally use it to do this; > http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/Target-Aw.jpg > > and if that isn't enough I can always fall back on these; > http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/G-S%26W-M52-LAc.jpg > http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/G-HS-104-RAc.jpg > > ... this I just have for the pure joy of having a piece of history; > http://homepage.mac.com/lco/filechute/G-1852Navy-Ac.jpg > > Who knows why the home invaders have stayed away? > > -- > Regards, > > Savageduck > You are truly a man after my own heart, Savageduck.....but, you should also have a few air guns.....they are very well made, and highly accurate, and are a lot of fun to practice with, as well as being very cheap to shoot. You can also shoot them in your house, and don't have to go to a firing range. I became a crack pistol shooter through the use of air guns, and the ammunition was only about a penny a piece or less....I could hit a silver dollar at fifty feet free standing when I was about 50 years old.....
From: Bill Graham on 17 Sep 2009 21:15
"Savageduck" <savageduck@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message news:2009091717212594091-savageduck(a)REMOVESPAMmecom... > On 2009-09-17 16:52:45 -0700, "Bill Graham" <weg9(a)comcast.net> said: > >> >> "SMS" <scharf.steven(a)geemail.com> wrote in message >> news:4ab2b900$0$1618$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... >>> Bill Graham wrote: >>> >>>> It's amazing how few people here break into houses, when they know that >>>> the occupants probably have a gun. >>> >>> In fact, the opposite is true. Nearly all break-ins occur when the >>> occupants are not home. Guns are one of the items most likely to be >>> stolen in house break-ins. >>> >>>> If I were a professional house breaker, I would go to some country >>>> where no one is allowed to own a gun. That's just good common sense. >>> >>> A professional "house breaker" does not break into houses that are >>> occupied. They do break into houses where they think fence-able items >>> are available. An indication that the homeowner is a member of the NRA >>> would indicate the probability that handguns are stored in the house. >>> >>> If you want to prevent break-ins, install security cameras, alarms, and >>> get a dog that barks a lot when strangers approach. You'll be much more >>> likely to prevent a break-in than you would by owning a gun. >> >> I meant break ins when the occupants either are home, or the breaker >> doesn't know whether or not the occupants are home.....Of course, people >> won't normally break into houses when the occupants are known to be home. >> Especially here in the US, where the occupants are known to have guns in >> the house. When I leave the house, I leave lights on, and close my garage >> door, so nobody knows I am gone. And when I am home sleeping in the >> middle of the night, I have that gun under my mattress, baby..... > > Under the mattress is not a safe place to keep any weapon, especially > groping for it under duress. > A bedside drawer is safer and more accessible. > BTW there is nothing that will clear your home of intruders quicker than > the sound of a 12 gauge pump action shotgun being racked. That is by far > the finest home defense weapon. > > ...and you will probably never even have to introduce yourself to your > uninvited guests. > -- > Regards, > > Savageduck > Actually, I do keep it in a drawer next to my bed... |