From: guskz on 27 May 2010 15:42 The formula they are presently using is "incorrect". Excluding relativistic, non-euclidean, and other similar factors, the formula they are presently using is: T = proper time c = light's speed D = distance the light has travelled De = difference in distance since the light left it's source. Brightness = Luminosity / D^2 Incorrect because light leaving its source is a 3D factor (thus the square of it travel distance), but for expanding space, it is a 4D factor this causes brightness to diminish by the cube of the expansion length. The correct formula to determine the Universe's Expansion is as follows: Most likely Brightness = Luminosity / (D^2 De^3) or Brightness = D^2+De^3 (Luminosity/(D^2De^3) The above formula not only applies to distance stars but how they determine the lifespan from radiating matter on earth. To follow the real expansion rate of the Universe and if it changes with time.
From: BURT on 27 May 2010 15:53 On May 27, 12:42 pm, "gu...(a)hotmail.com" <gu...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > The formula they are presently using is "incorrect". > > Excluding relativistic, non-euclidean, and other similar factors, the > formula they are presently using is: > T = proper time > c = light's speed > D = distance the light has travelled > De = difference in distance since the light left it's source. > > Brightness = Luminosity / D^2 > > Incorrect because light leaving its source is a 3D factor (thus the > square of it travel distance), but for expanding space, it is a 4D > factor this causes brightness to diminish by the cube of the expansion > length. > > The correct formula to determine the Universe's Expansion is as > follows: > > Most likely Brightness = Luminosity / (D^2 De^3) > or > Brightness = D^2+De^3 (Luminosity/(D^2De^3) > > The above formula not only applies to distance stars but how they > determine the lifespan from radiating matter on earth. > > To follow the real expansion rate of the Universe and if it changes > with time. The beginning size of the universe or 4D space surface at the beginning of time is not a zero size point. No the Ring Big Bang started energy spread out in already created space. The hypersphere flowed and was huge in an instance. We are energy in its expanding surface. Neutrons were first matter. Mitch Raemsch
From: Sam Wormley on 27 May 2010 18:44 No Center http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/nocenter.html http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/infpoint.html Also see Ned Wright's Cosmology Tutorial http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmolog.htm http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/cosmology_faq.html http://www.astro.ucla.edu/~wright/CosmoCalc.html WMAP: Foundations of the Big Bang theory http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni.html WMAP: Tests of Big Bang Cosmology http://map.gsfc.nasa.gov/m_uni/uni_101bbtest.html
From: Henry Wilson DSc on 27 May 2010 19:12 On Thu, 27 May 2010 12:42:00 -0700 (PDT), "guskz(a)hotmail.com" <guskz(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >The formula they are presently using is "incorrect". > >Excluding relativistic, non-euclidean, and other similar factors, the >formula they are presently using is: >T = proper time >c = light's speed >D = distance the light has travelled >De = difference in distance since the light left it's source. > >Brightness = Luminosity / D^2 > > >Incorrect because light leaving its source is a 3D factor (thus the >square of it travel distance), but for expanding space, it is a 4D >factor this causes brightness to diminish by the cube of the expansion >length. > >The correct formula to determine the Universe's Expansion is as >follows: > >Most likely Brightness = Luminosity / (D^2 De^3) >or >Brightness = D^2+De^3 (Luminosity/(D^2De^3) > > >The above formula not only applies to distance stars but how they >determine the lifespan from radiating matter on earth. > >To follow the real expansion rate of the Universe and if it changes >with time. The universe is not expanding. Light slows as it travels. Henry Wilson... ........Einstein's Relativity...The religion that worships negative space.
From: Sam Wormley on 27 May 2010 19:16 On 5/27/10 6:12 PM, Henry Wilson DSc wrote: > The universe is not expanding. > Light slows as it travels. > > Henry Wilson... > Do a bit of self education, Henri!
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