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From: John Kelly on 1 Jul 2010 10:39
On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 10:10:51 -0400, Sherm Pendley
<spamtrap(a)shermpendley.com> wrote:

>John Kelly <jak(a)isp2dial.com> writes:
>
>> If you're not interested in a thread, or it seems off topic to you, why
>> not ignore it.

>Doing so encourages more off-topic threads.

I believe not.


>there's a chance ... that someone doesn't realize that they're behaving
>badly, and may therefore appreciate being told about it, so as to avoid
>being rude in the future.

Some people use newsgroups as a social structure where they hang out and
meet friends. So they expect newcomers to behave like themselves. But
I don't use newsgroups that way. To me they are an information resource
and little more. I'm not interested in your social group's approval.


>> Thanks, but it looks too noisy to be helpful.
>
>That's what happens in a free-for-all which doesn't take topicality
>very seriously. So the question is, why do you want to turn this group
>into such an unhelpful place as that?

The complainers are making more noise than my original post. If you
can't ignore me, you have no one but yourselves to blame.



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From: sreservoir on 1 Jul 2010 11:05
On 7/1/2010 10:39 AM, John Kelly wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 10:10:51 -0400, Sherm Pendley
> <spamtrap(a)shermpendley.com> wrote:
>
>> John Kelly<jak(a)isp2dial.com> writes:
>>
>>> If you're not interested in a thread, or it seems off topic to you, why
>>> not ignore it.
>
>> Doing so encourages more off-topic threads.
>
> I believe not.

you believe wrongly.

>> there's a chance ... that someone doesn't realize that they're behaving
>> badly, and may therefore appreciate being told about it, so as to avoid
>> being rude in the future.
>
> Some people use newsgroups as a social structure where they hang out and
> meet friends. So they expect newcomers to behave like themselves. But
> I don't use newsgroups that way. To me they are an information resource
> and little more. I'm not interested in your social group's approval.

newsgroups _are_ social structure. treat them as such.

>>> Thanks, but it looks too noisy to be helpful.
>>
>> That's what happens in a free-for-all which doesn't take topicality
>> very seriously. So the question is, why do you want to turn this group
>> into such an unhelpful place as that?
>
> The complainers are making more noise than my original post. If you
> can't ignore me, you have no one but yourselves to blame.

see upthread.

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From: John Kelly on 1 Jul 2010 11:18
On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 11:05:08 -0400, sreservoir <sreservoir(a)gmail.com>
wrote:

>>>> If you're not interested in a thread, or it seems off topic to you, why
>>>> not ignore it.
>>
>>> Doing so encourages more off-topic threads.
>>
>> I believe not.
>
>you believe wrongly.

How can you be sure.


>> Some people use newsgroups as a social structure where they hang out and
>> meet friends. So they expect newcomers to behave like themselves. But
>> I don't use newsgroups that way. To me they are an information resource
>> and little more. I'm not interested in your social group's approval.

>newsgroups _are_ social structure. treat them as such.

Well I don't mean to belittle anyone who has few other social outlets,
so let me apologize if my words caused offense. But I just can't get
into the spirit of group think online. I need face to face contact for
that.

For those who want to continue discussing psychology, please change the
subject. By now, we are far more off topic than the daemon helper ever
was.



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From: Tad McClellan on 1 Jul 2010 12:21
John Kelly <jak(a)isp2dial.com> wrote:

> I just can't get
> into the spirit of group think online.


Then perhaps you should consider not joining groups online.


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From: Ted Zlatanov on 1 Jul 2010 16:48
On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 13:21:55 +0000 John Kelly <jak(a)isp2dial.com> wrote:

JK> On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 07:39:01 -0500, Ted Zlatanov <tzz(a)lifelogs.com>
JK> wrote:

>> You should try to popularize your software but this way you will just
>> annoy people.

JK> If you're not interested in a thread, or it seems off topic to you, why
JK> not ignore it. Every complaint is another opportunity for me to discuss
JK> it.

I'm really not complaining and I have nothing against your software. I
was trying to help you find an audience; I can assure you c.l.p.misc is
not it and I tried to explain why it's not relevant and why people are
annoyed. If reddit.com is not to your liking, try freshmeat.com or any
of the other places software is announced.

Ted
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