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From: Juha Nieminen on 27 Jul 2010 10:39
I have been using OpenSUSE 11.0 for quite some time now. At one point
I tried to upgrade to 11.2, but I couldn't get X to work at all. I don't
know if I messed up with the drivers or what, but it just wouldn't work
at all. When the bootup sequence attempted to start the X login, the
screen would get all messed up and after a few seconds the machine would
reboot. I tried installing the newest ATI drivers (for I have a Radeon
3850) but they didn't help. Out of options, I had to reinstall 11.0 to
get things working (a rather laborious task because OpenSUSE doesn't
support downgrading, so I had to start from scratch and wipe everything
clean, install 11.0 and then all the libraries and programs I use...)

Now support for 11.0 has been discontinued, so I'm more or less forced
to upgrade to 11.3.

Does anyone have any experience on OpenSUSE 11.x and the ATI Radeon
3850 cards, with the ATI drivers or the third-party drivers? Any
stability problems? Does X work ok (it starts, windowing is hardware
accelerated, mplayer works ok, etc)? Can I go and upgrade to 11.3 and
be sure that it will just work?

Note that currently, even in 11.0, I'm having some problems with the
ATI proprietary drivers. The version 9.5 of the drivers work ok, but
more recent versions (although it has been some months since I have
tried) just crash the computer when starting X (screen goes all weird,
after a few seconds the computer reboots).
From: JT on 27 Jul 2010 11:38
On 27/07/10 17:13, houghi wrote:
> Juha Nieminen wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have any experience on OpenSUSE 11.x and the ATI Radeon
>> 3850 cards, with the ATI drivers or the third-party drivers?
>>
> No.
>
I doubt that. The question was "Does anyone have ... etc.". Someone will
have this running I presume? So 'No' is the wrong answer. Better would
be: "Yes, most probably"
>
>> Any stability problems?
>>
> No.
>
>
>> Does X work ok (it starts, windowing is hardware accelerated, mplayer
>> works ok, etc)?
>>
> Yes. Or do you mean specifically with that card? Then I do not know. See
> below.
>
>
>> Can I go and upgrade to 11.3 and be sure that it will just work?
>>
> Please tell US if it worked. There is no good answer. It might, it might
> not.
>
>
>> Note that currently, even in 11.0, I'm having some problems with the
>> ATI proprietary drivers. The version 9.5 of the drivers work ok, but
>> more recent versions (although it has been some months since I have
>> tried) just crash the computer when starting X (screen goes all weird,
>> after a few seconds the computer reboots).
>>
> My experience is that over time hardware support gets better. So where
> hardware was not supported or needed a lot of manual changes, things do
> get better over time.
>
> However it is very hard to decide if something will or won't work. In
> general the answer is "Yes, it will work" with hardware support.
> Everything has exceptions, so if people say it will work, you might be
> the exception and it won't.
>
> The best way to go about going to a new install is having at least 3
> partitions.
> 1 for your current /
> 1 for your previous/next /
> 1 for /home
>
> Then when you do a new install, you have the previous/next that becomes
> the current and the current becomes the previous one and can be used for
> the next version.
>
> That way you will always have a dual boot and can always go back if
> things go broke.
>
> Pay attention during the installation that the disks are formatted
> correctly. I have the old version mounted as read-only /media/11.2 so I
> can easily copy whatever I need from there, especially files in /etc
>
> houghi
>


--
Kind regards, JT

From: Chris Cox on 27 Jul 2010 17:22
On Tue, 2010-07-27 at 14:39 +0000, Juha Nieminen wrote:
> I have been using OpenSUSE 11.0 for quite some time now. At one point
> I tried to upgrade to 11.2, but I couldn't get X to work at all. I don't
> know if I messed up with the drivers or what, but it just wouldn't work
> at all. When the bootup sequence attempted to start the X login, the
> screen would get all messed up and after a few seconds the machine would
> reboot. I tried installing the newest ATI drivers (for I have a Radeon
> 3850) but they didn't help. Out of options, I had to reinstall 11.0 to
> get things working (a rather laborious task because OpenSUSE doesn't
> support downgrading, so I had to start from scratch and wipe everything
> clean, install 11.0 and then all the libraries and programs I use...)
>
> Now support for 11.0 has been discontinued, so I'm more or less forced
> to upgrade to 11.3.
>
> Does anyone have any experience on OpenSUSE 11.x and the ATI Radeon
> 3850 cards, with the ATI drivers or the third-party drivers? Any
> stability problems? Does X work ok (it starts, windowing is hardware
> accelerated, mplayer works ok, etc)? Can I go and upgrade to 11.3 and
> be sure that it will just work?
>
> Note that currently, even in 11.0, I'm having some problems with the
> ATI proprietary drivers. The version 9.5 of the drivers work ok, but
> more recent versions (although it has been some months since I have
> tried) just crash the computer when starting X (screen goes all weird,
> after a few seconds the computer reboots).

I have a primary desktop that is still 11.0.. I plan to upgrade after
doing some testing.. fortunately, my desktop is virtual... so I just put
another up.. play... confirm and switch over.

There's no law saying you have to move off 11.0, there just won't be
anymore security updates. That's actually not a huge risk like it is
with Windows.


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